Signals From Mars – Episode 409 – Hour One Music Discussion

Signals From Mars Episode 409 Hour One Music Discussion

SIGNALS FROM MARS | HOUR ONE MUSIC DISCUSSION MARCH 14, 2025

πŸš€πŸŽΈ The Hour One Show Returns to Signals From Mars: A Deep Dive into Rock & Metal’s Latest Buzz! 🌟

Join us as we reignite the Hour One show on Signals From Mars, where my Patrons and I delve into the most electrifying topics shaking the hard rock and metal universe. 🀘

Some of the topic’s discussed include:

🎢 Upcoming Album Releases We’re Excited About
We break down the most anticipated new albums on the horizon β€” who’s delivering the goods in 2025, and which ones have us counting the days?

🎀 Concerts We Can’t Wait to Attend
From intimate club shows to massive arena tours, we’re talking about the live acts we’re most hyped to experience this year.

🎬 Skid Row’s Slave to the Grind Documentary β€” Essential Viewing or Overkill?
There’s a new doc diving into Slave to the Grind. Is it a must-watch for fans, or are we retreading too-familiar ground?

βš”οΈ Savatage Spotlighting the Zak Stevens Era β€” Wise Choice or Missed Opportunity?
The band is leaning heavily into the Zak Stevens years. Is that the smartest play, or should they be balancing the eras more?

πŸ“¦ Rush 50: A Box Set for the Ages
A half-century of Rush is being honored with a new boxed set. We dig into what’s inside and whether it does justice to the band’s legacy.

βš–οΈ Tool’s Legal Drama β€” What’s Really Going On?
Another chapter in Tool’s long legal saga. What’s the latest, and what does it mean for fans hoping for new music?

#SignalsFromMars #HardRock #MetalMusic #MetalHeadsUnite #MetalMusicDiscussion #MusicPodcast 🌠🎀

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Signals From Mars – Episode 409: The Hour One Show Returns


Show Notes:

🎸 The Hour One Show Returns to Signals From Mars: A Deep Dive into Rock & Metal’s Latest Buzz! 🎸

After a long hiatus, the Hour One Show makes its triumphant return! Join Victor and his Patrons as they dive into the latest hard rock and metal news, sharing their unfiltered opinions on upcoming album releases, live shows, documentaries, and more. Get ready for passionate discussions and unique insights from devoted rock and metal fans. 🀘


Episode Highlights & Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Welcome & Introduction
Victor kicks off Episode 409 of Signals From Mars, welcoming listeners and explaining the format of the returning Hour One Show. Special shoutout to Patrons who make these discussions possible!

00:05:30 – New Album Releases We’re Excited About
Discussion on highly anticipated rock and metal albums of 2025, including:

  • Anthrax – Will their next album match their legacy?

  • Death Angel & Testament – More thrash goodness incoming?

  • Joe Holmes’ New Album – A rare release from the Ozzy and Pharmacos guitarist.

00:20:00 – Concerts We Can’t Wait to Attend
Live shows are back in full force! Which tours have us hyped?

  • Michael Schenker & Armored Saint – A must-see lineup, but ticket prices are steep.

  • Volbeat & Hailstorm/Bush – Which supporting act would you rather see?

  • Pantera & Amon Amarth – A heavy-hitting combo.

  • Weird Al’s Full Production Return – Worth the hype?

00:40:15 – Skid Row’s Slave to the Grind Documentary
A new doc about Slave to the Grind is coming in 2025, but do we need it? Does the producer even remember making the album? πŸ€”

00:50:30 – Savatage Focusing on the Zak Stevens Era
A bold decisionβ€”will fans embrace the Zak Stevens years over the classic Jon Oliva era?

01:05:00 – Rush 50 Box Set – Does It Do Justice?
A look into the new release celebrating Rush’s 50th anniversary. Is it a must-buy for diehard fans?

01:15:45 – Tool’s Legal Drama – What’s Really Going On?
Yet another legal saga in Tool’s historyβ€”how will it impact their future releases?

01:25:00 – Closing Thoughts & Shoutouts
Wrapping up with final thoughts, upcoming events, and how you can support Signals From Mars.


Quotes for Social Sharing:

πŸ“’ “Hard rock and metal fans deserve deep, passionate discussionsβ€”this is what we do on Signals From Mars!” πŸ”₯ #SignalsFromMars #MetalPodcast

🎢 “2025 is shaping up to be a MASSIVE year for rock & metal releases. Anthrax, Testament, Death Angelβ€”bring it on!” 🀘 #MetalHeadsUnite #NewMusic

πŸ€” “Does the world need a Slave to the Grind documentary? We debate if this is essential or overkill.” #SkidRow #RockDocs

πŸ’Ώ “Rush 50: A legendary box set for a legendary band. But does it live up to the hype?” #Rush50 #ProgRock

🎸 “Savatage is shifting focus to the Zak Stevens era. Is this a bold move or a missed opportunity?” #Savatage #HeavyMetal


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Welcome, one and all, to episode 409 of Signals

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from Mars. I’m your host, Victor, and here we

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bring you an hour one music discussion. Haven’t

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done one of these in a long time. For those of

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you new to the show, this is just me with a bunch

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of different patrons just shooting the shit,

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basically, about current hard rock and metal

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topics. Hope you guys enjoy. I want to send the

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shout out to my patrons for their support. Let’s

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go oldest to newest here. We have Steven Saylor,

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Dahl, who appears on this episode, Gabriel Ruiz,

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Chris Vaglio, Jose Ruiz, Metal Dan, who’s also

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Anthony Mackie, who you can hear during the episode,

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of different topics that are in the news lately.

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I’ve had a professional tell me so as well. We’ll

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leave it at that. But it’s cool to catch up with

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doing this. People seem to still enjoy it. And

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people seem to still want to hang out and listen

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to lie to you guys. But yeah, it was fun. It

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vote for no other reason at all. Just the fact

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that we love bands, we love music, and we want

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to talk about them. How about that? How about

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that being the reason and not just, oh, well,

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let’s see how we can rile people up on the internet.

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Let’s see how we can take advantage of this.

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Yeah, I want to take advantage of having a cool

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discussion about music. Anyway, thanks for listening.

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If you voted, thank you for voting on that. If

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from Mars at Signals from Mars. And that is it,

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folks. Let’s get on with the episode. Welcome,

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one and all, to the March 14th edition of Signals

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from Mars. I’m your host, Victor. Joining me

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this week is Metal Dan. And Anthony Mackey seems

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to have joined us as well. Anthony, we can’t

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see you. No camera tonight. Okay, that’s fine.

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Anthony, let me know if you’re still going to

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be audibly participating in the episode or not.

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Okay, that works. Okay, cool. So awesome. There’s

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the three of us going and who knows, maybe somebody

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else may join in, but we’re back with a hour

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one music discussion. And just for those not

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familiar with the premise behind these hour one

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shows, it’s just us riffing on different hot

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topic questions in hard rock and metal topics,

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however you want to look at it. But I came up

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with five different points to talk about tonight,

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and hopefully Dan and Anthony can… Help me

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out here. Sort through some of this hard rock

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and metal. I was going to say nonsense, nuttiness,

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just topics. How about that? Let’s leave it at

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that. Let’s not offend anyone. There’s no script

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here, and I don’t know where this goes, so I

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don’t know what’s going to happen. All right.

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So the first topic of the night, new albums we’re

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looking forward to hearing. We are already three

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months in. There’s a lot of good music that’s

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come out so far, and we’ve still got plenty to

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go for the rest of the year. There are all types

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of rumors and things about albums that are coming

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out this year. There are a few that I would really

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like to hear. Hopefully when they come out, I

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will be just as enthused about them once I actually

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hear them. But Dan, any albums that you’re looking

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forward to? Hearing this year, I need new music.

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So, yeah, I’m looking forward to the new Darkness

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album. I’ve heard a few cuts, and maybe some

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people I heard might have a problem with the

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album. I shouldn’t talk about that. But I like

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what I’ve heard so far, and I’m looking forward

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to it. One of the leaked songs didn’t turn me

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on, but the other ones have me. So the new Darkness

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is one. Okay. Any others? Yeah, I’ve really been

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into an Anthrax mood lately. So I’m really hoping

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for the best. I’ve, you know, I kind of over

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-listened to them a lot and then I’ll pause again

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because I burn out. But I’ve been in that mood

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for Anthrax a lot lately. And then you just recently

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posted something about Volbeat, the song By a

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Monster’s Hand. I was really surprised that I

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liked it. So now I’m looking for the new Volbeat

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too. Yeah, cool. Anthony, any new music you’re

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looking forward to? No, Anthony. Oh, all right.

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Yeah, sorry, sorry. I was saying, I can’t really

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think of anything off the top of my head. Also,

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the first one Dan mentioned there, Darkness,

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yeah. Three of the four released songs have been

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good, so that’s not bad. Yeah. I read that Doug

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Pinnock has said that he feels it’s time for

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King’s X to write something else. Yeah, but I

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won’t hold my breath for that. Okay. Cool. What

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a dysfunction they had with the last one. I don’t

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see how they’re interested in doing it again.

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Yeah, you’re right. Even though it turned out

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well, it was a job to come out. Yeah, okay. What

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about you, Victor? Yeah, I’ve got a few here.

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You mentioned the Anthrax, same thing. I’m interested

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in listening to that one. There’s a few other

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thrash ones that are supposed to come out. This

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year or maybe next year from what I’ve seen so

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far. There’s Death Angel that’s supposedly in

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the works. Testament. Armored Saint has started

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writing and recording stuff. Don’t know how far

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along that is. I welcome that with open arms.

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But the one that’s really piqued my interest

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where I’ve heard a bunch of tracks while… Two

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tracks, to be fair. We’ve talked about it on

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Patreon. It’s the new Joe Holmes album, which

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the two tracks that I’ve heard so far I think

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are great. I’m really looking forward to that.

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And it’s so interesting because I really like

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that Pharmacos album as well. So it’s almost

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like he’s releasing stuff once every like five

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or six years. And so long as the quality is there,

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I’m good with that. You know, I don’t need to

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have a new album every year if it’s just not

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going to be that good. So, uh, looks like, uh,

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Brad doll is also joining us here. Do you need

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a clap to sync this up now? No, no. I’ll do it

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in the editing. Don’t worry. I’m used to it.

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Fix it in the mix. Fix it in the mix. There you

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go. Sorry I’m late, guys. Metal Dan! Metal Dan!

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See that? How awesome is that? I haven’t seen

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you in a while. Good to see you, Dan. We’ve also

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got Anthony Mackie with us. Audio only. Okay.

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Yeah. There’s no camera on this computer I’m

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using. Yeah. Okay. So, Brad, since we’ve already…

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You’re probably wishing there was no camera on

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mine. So we’ve… No, then we couldn’t see the

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great bucket hat. We did this right here. There

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you go. Tell them where they can get this, Bob.

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Yeah. Well… I’ve been fighting with them all

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week about orders not being fulfilled. Well,

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we shouldn’t let people know about that. All

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orders are fulfilled, of course. If they don’t

00:13:34.720 –> 00:13:38.100
get their shit in gear, I’ll be looking for merch

00:13:38.100 –> 00:13:43.080
provider number four. Oh, no. I do have to say

00:13:43.080 –> 00:13:45.240
this. Maybe the service ain’t that great, but

00:13:45.240 –> 00:13:48.799
the quality of the product is there. My T -shirt’s

00:13:48.799 –> 00:13:51.720
fantastic, this hat. Again, I get more compliments

00:13:51.720 –> 00:13:53.879
about this hat than any other hat that I wear.

00:13:54.259 –> 00:13:57.860
Well, it shouldn’t take two months to get a T

00:13:57.860 –> 00:13:59.399
-shirt to someone. That’s all I’m going to say.

00:13:59.700 –> 00:14:04.980
No, that’s true. All right, so Brad, any new

00:14:04.980 –> 00:14:07.419
albums you’re looking forward to hearing? Ooh,

00:14:07.419 –> 00:14:12.240
wow. Yeah, that’s an excellent question. I heard

00:14:12.240 –> 00:14:15.919
you talking about some people who are working

00:14:15.919 –> 00:14:24.480
on new stuff. Wow. What you talked about, Joe

00:14:24.480 –> 00:14:27.480
Holmes, I’m very excited to hear what he’s got

00:14:27.480 –> 00:14:31.220
cooking. The only other one that’s really on

00:14:31.220 –> 00:14:34.259
my radar right now is Ghost. And I’m kind of

00:14:34.259 –> 00:14:37.820
interested in that. The one song I’ve heard,

00:14:38.860 –> 00:14:43.289
I mean, it’s Ghost, you know. But it was a really

00:14:43.289 –> 00:14:45.549
light on the keyboards. I don’t know if it was

00:14:45.549 –> 00:14:47.610
just the mix on that one or whatever, but it

00:14:47.610 –> 00:14:50.409
didn’t have the, you know, the grandiose ghost

00:14:50.409 –> 00:14:54.929
ghostness going on. So I’m I’m OK with that.

00:14:54.970 –> 00:14:57.889
I’m OK with a stripped back ghost. Maybe maybe

00:14:57.889 –> 00:15:00.330
the keyboards are in the same frequencies as

00:15:00.330 –> 00:15:03.169
Queensryche symbols from Operation Mindcrime.

00:15:04.950 –> 00:15:07.450
No, there were lots of symbols there, man. Peter

00:15:07.450 –> 00:15:11.179
Collins, he never he never went. South on the

00:15:11.179 –> 00:15:14.740
symbols. It was the Ozzy album. It was the Scorpions

00:15:14.740 –> 00:15:18.799
album. Great white. Yeah. There was a lot of

00:15:18.799 –> 00:15:20.820
them there where the symbols just were hiding.

00:15:20.960 –> 00:15:22.879
I don’t know. I think it was just like a production

00:15:22.879 –> 00:15:25.139
thing in the day where it’s like, yeah, let’s

00:15:25.139 –> 00:15:27.360
try to keep it. Or they were using drum machines

00:15:27.360 –> 00:15:29.139
and they didn’t want, they didn’t want to mix

00:15:29.139 –> 00:15:32.220
in, you know, that’s the fake hi -hat stuff.

00:15:32.899 –> 00:15:35.289
It didn’t sound that good. Well, they’re doing

00:15:35.289 –> 00:15:37.990
that now with everything. Just ask Anthony about

00:15:37.990 –> 00:15:44.870
all the great double bass. Wow. Yeah, I know

00:15:44.870 –> 00:15:47.330
it’s funny. When we did some of our recording

00:15:47.330 –> 00:15:50.429
back in the 80s, it was probably around 86. Well,

00:15:50.669 –> 00:15:55.370
you know, kind of the same time -ish. They were

00:15:55.370 –> 00:15:59.129
using samples for the drum sounds, for the toms

00:15:59.129 –> 00:16:03.840
and the kick and the snare. And so our drummer

00:16:03.840 –> 00:16:05.559
would play that, you know, with a Simmons kit.

00:16:05.860 –> 00:16:08.759
And then we’d go back afterward and add actual

00:16:08.759 –> 00:16:10.720
cymbals. And it was pretty funny because he would

00:16:10.720 –> 00:16:12.820
sit there with no drums, sit there on a drum

00:16:12.820 –> 00:16:15.580
stool with a hi -hat and cymbals and play along

00:16:15.580 –> 00:16:19.419
with the song. It came out really cool. But so,

00:16:19.480 –> 00:16:22.580
yeah, interesting stuff. We did weird things

00:16:22.580 –> 00:16:25.799
in the 80s. I think Slayer’s probably the most

00:16:25.799 –> 00:16:28.679
famous band to do that. Oh, they did that, didn’t

00:16:28.679 –> 00:16:31.919
they? Yeah. And that was what year was that?

00:16:32.340 –> 00:16:39.019
That was… 86. See? Was it that far along? It

00:16:39.019 –> 00:16:41.799
was the first… It was the first album. Yeah.

00:16:41.960 –> 00:16:44.960
Oh, right. Okay. So I think it might have been

00:16:44.960 –> 00:16:50.080
earlier than that. Yeah. Might have been. We

00:16:50.080 –> 00:16:55.360
did that on the last recording that we did. We

00:16:55.360 –> 00:16:58.559
recorded the drums and cymbals separately. Oh,

00:16:58.580 –> 00:17:05.640
wow. Just to help with the mix. Yeah. Here I

00:17:05.640 –> 00:17:09.140
thought we invented that. No, that’s a trick.

00:17:10.400 –> 00:17:15.660
Yeah. 83. Show no mercy. Okay. So they did it

00:17:15.660 –> 00:17:20.279
before we did. Darn. Yeah. Oh, well. I said a

00:17:20.279 –> 00:17:22.099
bunch of other trends in the 80s, but maybe not

00:17:22.099 –> 00:17:26.640
that one. There you go. All right. So let’s move

00:17:26.640 –> 00:17:29.730
on to the second topic here. I’ve been checking

00:17:29.730 –> 00:17:33.529
out what shows might be available when we hit

00:17:33.529 –> 00:17:39.029
the States this year. And there’s a few. There’s

00:17:39.029 –> 00:17:42.930
some package deals. There’s, which is a package

00:17:42.930 –> 00:17:45.609
deal, the only bands that I’ve really listened

00:17:45.609 –> 00:17:49.569
to a fairly decent amount are Kill Switch Engage

00:17:49.569 –> 00:17:54.910
and Parkway Drive. I think I Prevail is on that

00:17:54.910 –> 00:17:57.250
as well, but I’ve listened to them sparingly.

00:17:58.279 –> 00:18:01.619
Offspring is coming around with Jimmy World and

00:18:01.619 –> 00:18:07.579
Newfound Glory, I think it is. Volbeat with Hailstorm.

00:18:09.599 –> 00:18:13.599
Volbeat will also be here in October, but with

00:18:13.599 –> 00:18:19.619
Bush, actually. So I’m trying to think. There’s

00:18:19.619 –> 00:18:22.180
a third show that I looked at, and I just don’t

00:18:22.180 –> 00:18:26.619
remember right now. But anyway. Dan, any shows

00:18:26.619 –> 00:18:28.400
that you’re looking forward to checking out?

00:18:29.059 –> 00:18:33.440
Yeah, so a couple things. So tickets went on

00:18:33.440 –> 00:18:37.579
sale today for Shanker with Armored Saint opening.

00:18:37.799 –> 00:18:42.960
Okay, yeah. And I got in late. To look. And by

00:18:42.960 –> 00:18:44.539
the time I got there, the show that I wanted

00:18:44.539 –> 00:18:47.480
to go in Anaheim, it’s nearly already sold out.

00:18:47.759 –> 00:18:50.500
And I was looking at they did it by sections.

00:18:50.539 –> 00:18:53.480
They’re doing it by seats. The venue can be standing

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room. Looks like they’re doing seats. They want

00:18:57.380 –> 00:19:04.079
$400 for one ticket up front for one way. I was.

00:19:04.880 –> 00:19:09.079
Yeah. And in the back, they want 50 to 60 to

00:19:09.079 –> 00:19:13.430
70 U .S. And, of course, I need my Armored Saint

00:19:13.430 –> 00:19:17.309
up close. And, yeah, I get it, Michael Shanker,

00:19:17.349 –> 00:19:20.430
whatever. But I’m an Armored Saint fan. Call

00:19:20.430 –> 00:19:23.549
it what I am. So I want to just see Armored Saint.

00:19:23.910 –> 00:19:27.069
So I don’t know. Hopefully I’ll get another chance.

00:19:27.309 –> 00:19:28.730
Looks like so far I’m skipping. They’re playing

00:19:28.730 –> 00:19:33.549
a couple of other venues. I can try. I was surprised.

00:19:33.630 –> 00:19:37.609
I was shocked at the cost because this is a smallish

00:19:37.609 –> 00:19:43.109
venue. Medium sizes. Yeah. And I don’t know why

00:19:43.109 –> 00:19:46.009
the prices are so high. But anyways, that was

00:19:46.009 –> 00:19:50.170
interesting. But next month is Jackal. Before

00:19:50.170 –> 00:19:53.470
you go on on Jackal, is Armand St. doing the

00:19:53.470 –> 00:19:57.509
whole tour with Michael? No. It’s only the California

00:19:57.509 –> 00:20:03.690
dates. Oh. One date in Texas and one in Arizona.

00:20:03.710 –> 00:20:07.730
So it’s. It’s Anaheim, Agora Hills, somewhere

00:20:07.730 –> 00:20:10.950
up in San Francisco. It’s four or five dates

00:20:10.950 –> 00:20:16.130
in California. Two dates. The Agora Hills is

00:20:16.130 –> 00:20:18.250
a nice venue. It’s small. It’s going to be very

00:20:18.250 –> 00:20:21.049
intimate. It’s a drive for me. That’s the way

00:20:21.049 –> 00:20:27.490
it’s out there on the 101. But, yeah, it’s just

00:20:27.490 –> 00:20:29.509
a few dates that I’m happy that they’re doing.

00:20:31.539 –> 00:20:34.460
I really like to see them. It’s funny, Shelley

00:20:34.460 –> 00:20:37.640
was just showing me that she got the ad, the

00:20:37.640 –> 00:20:39.640
Michael Schenker thing. She goes, you’re going

00:20:39.640 –> 00:20:41.599
to go see this. It’s like, well, you’re not really

00:20:41.599 –> 00:20:43.839
coming anywhere near here. Denver is probably

00:20:43.839 –> 00:20:47.339
the closest. But I just got a notice from the

00:20:47.339 –> 00:20:49.279
place that I’m going to see Saxon a week from

00:20:49.279 –> 00:20:52.799
today that they’re playing there at the Tobin

00:20:52.799 –> 00:20:57.430
Arts Center. san antonio and they’re selling

00:20:57.430 –> 00:21:00.769
the minimum the lower tickets which would be

00:21:00.769 –> 00:21:03.609
up in the upper deck would be 39 which that’s

00:21:03.609 –> 00:21:07.869
not too bad cool yeah we were talking at the

00:21:07.869 –> 00:21:10.170
top of the hour that armor saint is probably

00:21:10.170 –> 00:21:13.630
releasing a new album this year so hopefully

00:21:13.630 –> 00:21:15.809
there’ll be more than just this they’re more

00:21:15.809 –> 00:21:19.490
active than ever which is a great thing So that

00:21:19.490 –> 00:21:22.269
kind of was weird. It is what it is. I just saw

00:21:22.269 –> 00:21:24.329
him twice last year, and they’re playing with

00:21:24.329 –> 00:21:28.650
Wasp in Europe. So, again, take your shot. When

00:21:28.650 –> 00:21:30.849
you take it, go see Armored Stain. I make the

00:21:30.849 –> 00:21:33.390
drive. I’ve driven all over just to see them.

00:21:33.950 –> 00:21:38.190
But, yeah, Jackal. I happen to be a – I think

00:21:38.190 –> 00:21:41.890
Jeff Worley, the pirate, is a guitar god. I like

00:21:41.890 –> 00:21:44.869
watching him play. I know not everybody’s got

00:21:44.869 –> 00:21:48.009
a taste for Jackal. My wife’s not going. I’ve

00:21:48.009 –> 00:21:54.329
got to solo it. But I dig it. Last time was like

00:21:54.329 –> 00:21:57.289
five years ago, and I need about one show every

00:21:57.289 –> 00:21:59.890
five years, and I’m good. More than that, it’s

00:21:59.890 –> 00:22:03.049
the same shit over and over. Where are they playing

00:22:03.049 –> 00:22:08.750
at? Where am I going to? Orange County, South

00:22:08.750 –> 00:22:12.789
Orange County. They’re all over. There’s a venue

00:22:12.789 –> 00:22:15.490
opened up in Fontana that’s brand new. They’re

00:22:15.490 –> 00:22:17.509
playing Vegas. They’re playing Vamp. They’re

00:22:17.509 –> 00:22:21.089
playing Arizona. So when they come out to the

00:22:21.089 –> 00:22:24.289
West Coast, they do it. And then they go back

00:22:24.289 –> 00:22:27.349
to the East and Texas and all the other stuff.

00:22:27.450 –> 00:22:30.930
And they don’t leave the U .S., it seems. Well,

00:22:30.970 –> 00:22:37.289
they probably can’t. But I’ve never seen them.

00:22:39.880 –> 00:22:42.680
Based on your assessment, it’s a band I should

00:22:42.680 –> 00:22:49.220
see. The bass has got a great tone. I like it

00:22:49.220 –> 00:22:52.539
every time I hear one of their songs. Roman’s

00:22:52.539 –> 00:22:55.119
got a thick, good tone. He’s got a good attitude.

00:22:55.539 –> 00:22:58.619
It’s a good band live. And then I’ll get off

00:22:58.619 –> 00:23:01.000
this topic and pass it on to somebody else. End

00:23:01.000 –> 00:23:05.759
of the year is Weird Al. I know a lot of people

00:23:05.759 –> 00:23:08.220
like Weird Al. I mean, going and seeing him.

00:23:08.240 –> 00:23:11.119
I know he’s got a killer band. Yeah, this time

00:23:11.119 –> 00:23:13.799
he’s bringing back the big show. This is back

00:23:13.799 –> 00:23:17.019
to return to the I’m fat and all that kind of

00:23:17.019 –> 00:23:20.019
stuff. So this is the full thing back because

00:23:20.019 –> 00:23:22.700
he took a break from that and now this is back.

00:23:22.779 –> 00:23:28.440
So that’s it, Weird Al. That’s pretty cool. And

00:23:28.440 –> 00:23:31.000
is that going to be a summer tour or end of the

00:23:31.000 –> 00:23:33.819
year, you’re saying? Yeah, Weird Al’s at near

00:23:33.819 –> 00:23:36.279
the end of the year. He’s doing a bunch of shows

00:23:36.279 –> 00:23:42.880
all over the U .S. Amazing. I’ve seen him, gosh,

00:23:43.140 –> 00:23:47.220
five times or so. And my wife laughs and she

00:23:47.220 –> 00:23:51.799
enjoys it. So it’s a good date night. He’s playing

00:23:51.799 –> 00:23:54.640
in the L .A. Forum. So that’s a nice big venue.

00:23:55.039 –> 00:23:59.519
Wow, that is. He’s playing the New York area

00:23:59.519 –> 00:24:05.200
right before we get there. We arrive on the 18th

00:24:05.200 –> 00:24:07.619
and he’s playing the 12th at Madison Square Garden.

00:24:08.170 –> 00:24:17.430
He’ll sell that out. He’s – let’s see. Where’s

00:24:17.430 –> 00:24:22.990
the 12th? Why isn’t Beth on the 13th, 17th? It’s

00:24:22.990 –> 00:24:25.769
a once -in -a -lifetime at least. You should

00:24:25.769 –> 00:24:32.849
see Weird Al. Philly would work. It’s sold out.

00:24:34.009 –> 00:24:36.329
Yeah, it’s sold. He’s a great entertainer. It’s

00:24:36.329 –> 00:24:40.029
a great show. Sold out in Philly. Then the next

00:24:40.029 –> 00:24:45.490
show is Vienna, Virginia. Yeah. Raleigh, North

00:24:45.490 –> 00:24:49.990
Carolina. So essentially, if we want to see,

00:24:50.029 –> 00:24:53.349
because the day we get there, he’s at the Foxwood

00:24:53.349 –> 00:24:58.509
Casino. That’s a good venue. Yeah. No way. Yeah.

00:24:58.609 –> 00:25:02.630
But after eight hours of being on a plane, there’s

00:25:02.630 –> 00:25:06.109
no way we’re going to Foxwood, which is another

00:25:06.109 –> 00:25:12.230
three hours away. And even going down to Filthy

00:25:12.230 –> 00:25:21.750
Delphia, that’s like two hours. So that sucks.

00:25:22.269 –> 00:25:26.450
I guess there’s a wait list as well. Yeah, tickets

00:25:26.450 –> 00:25:30.569
went on sale well before a year before the dates

00:25:30.569 –> 00:25:34.109
actually are fulfilled. So he lined it up. Anyways.

00:25:34.650 –> 00:25:38.410
All right. Anthony, any shows you’re looking

00:25:38.410 –> 00:25:44.650
forward to seeing? Yeah, it’s really busy gig

00:25:44.650 –> 00:25:49.569
-wise at the moment here. Oh, wow. And I’ve already

00:25:49.569 –> 00:25:53.250
got more tickets in the bag than I think I’ve

00:25:53.250 –> 00:25:58.210
ever had. The first of which is next Friday.

00:25:59.130 –> 00:26:03.910
Zeeland Arder are playing here. So go and see

00:26:03.910 –> 00:26:07.740
that. And then a lot of things that aren’t really

00:26:07.740 –> 00:26:13.359
metal, so to speak, you know. I’ve got tickets

00:26:13.359 –> 00:26:21.859
for Viagra Boys. Okay. Only DeFranco. Who else?

00:26:21.859 –> 00:26:25.660
We’ve got Weezer, My Bloody Valentine. Whoa.

00:26:26.160 –> 00:26:29.660
But that’s right up to the end of the year. But

00:26:29.660 –> 00:26:33.940
there’s a lot of metal gigs happening here. Like,

00:26:34.619 –> 00:26:36.799
Even what you just mentioned, like Shanker’s

00:26:36.799 –> 00:26:41.759
playing here, Wasser playing here. And there’s

00:26:41.759 –> 00:26:44.980
loads being announced all the time. Like I think

00:26:44.980 –> 00:26:49.599
I saw, was it like fucking Dark Angel were playing

00:26:49.599 –> 00:26:55.980
here? Okay. And there’s other kind of, there’s

00:26:55.980 –> 00:26:59.859
loads of metal happening here. It’s a really

00:26:59.859 –> 00:27:05.740
busy year for concerts. That’s cool. The other

00:27:05.740 –> 00:27:09.900
show that I forgot that I couldn’t think of before

00:27:09.900 –> 00:27:12.099
is Pantera and Amon Amarth is the other show.

00:27:13.220 –> 00:27:20.500
Pantera were here a week ago. And actually two

00:27:20.500 –> 00:27:26.319
nights ago was also your son’s favorite band,

00:27:26.480 –> 00:27:32.799
Limp Bizkit, were here. This gig’s all the time

00:27:32.799 –> 00:27:34.759
here. I don’t know how people are affording it

00:27:34.759 –> 00:27:37.460
because they’re crazy expensive. Expensive, yeah.

00:27:37.740 –> 00:27:41.099
That was my question. I mean, I’m sure all shows

00:27:41.099 –> 00:27:42.920
are different, but what about are you paying

00:27:42.920 –> 00:27:46.180
for a lot of these shows? I just had a look here.

00:27:47.779 –> 00:27:50.400
I’m not going to go to see Wasp, but they’re

00:27:50.400 –> 00:27:59.819
43 euro. Shanker, I looked, was 48 euro. Smallish.

00:28:00.000 –> 00:28:02.859
venue like if you were excited about it it would

00:28:02.859 –> 00:28:07.920
be a good gig but these bigger shows are just

00:28:07.920 –> 00:28:13.519
insane you know big controversy here with dynamic

00:28:13.519 –> 00:28:21.299
pricing and things like that so but like the

00:28:21.299 –> 00:28:27.279
things I choose to go to like I think Weezer

00:28:27.279 –> 00:28:34.559
was 70 or something you know and the other which

00:28:34.559 –> 00:28:37.720
I’m going to next week was only like 30 euro

00:28:37.720 –> 00:28:45.680
yeah Volbeat is 65 starting at 65 here and in

00:28:45.680 –> 00:28:54.720
New Jersey it was yeah about the same 67 dollars

00:28:54.720 –> 00:29:01.339
for It’s seated kind of middle of the amphitheater,

00:29:01.440 –> 00:29:06.480
like middle, middle, I would say is about 67.

00:29:06.680 –> 00:29:11.279
Yeah. So, I mean, I guess in that case, we got

00:29:11.279 –> 00:29:13.440
to pick either whether we want to see Bush or

00:29:13.440 –> 00:29:17.640
hailstorm. I don’t know. I got to say, I don’t

00:29:17.640 –> 00:29:22.799
think those ticket prices are that bad. What’s

00:29:22.799 –> 00:29:27.369
that Anthony? I was going to say, good luck choosing

00:29:27.369 –> 00:29:33.490
between Bush and Aylson. But yeah, like I’ve

00:29:33.490 –> 00:29:36.470
got to pick and choose what I go to as well.

00:29:37.250 –> 00:29:40.089
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the thing is for

00:29:40.089 –> 00:29:43.950
us too, you know, and I got to think about four

00:29:43.950 –> 00:29:47.910
tickets because it’s me, my wife, my kids. So

00:29:47.910 –> 00:29:51.930
for example, Pantera, the Pantera show, Offspring.

00:29:52.779 –> 00:29:56.140
was like 300 something dollars for the four of

00:29:56.140 –> 00:30:01.680
us um the other package with uh kill switch was

00:30:01.680 –> 00:30:06.220
like 270 and volbeat’s going to be similar in

00:30:06.220 –> 00:30:10.819
price to that so you know we usually pick one

00:30:10.819 –> 00:30:14.039
show because we can’t afford to see absolutely

00:30:14.039 –> 00:30:18.500
everything because of the prices but um Because,

00:30:18.500 –> 00:30:20.299
you know, we don’t know when we’re going back.

00:30:20.400 –> 00:30:22.460
We don’t know what shows are going to be there.

00:30:22.519 –> 00:30:24.740
And last year, unfortunately, there really wasn’t

00:30:24.740 –> 00:30:26.640
much. This year, there’s a bunch to choose from.

00:30:26.960 –> 00:30:32.680
But there really isn’t anything that, you know,

00:30:32.680 –> 00:30:36.000
that makes me want to go, oh, shit, I have to

00:30:36.000 –> 00:30:39.119
see that. You know, Shanker’s playing close to

00:30:39.119 –> 00:30:41.900
where Steve Holker lives. He’s playing in NetCon,

00:30:42.039 –> 00:30:44.339
New Jersey. He had an old theater there, which

00:30:44.339 –> 00:30:46.759
is like 20 minutes from where my folks live.

00:30:48.049 –> 00:30:52.289
But Armored Saint isn’t at that show. And it’s

00:30:52.289 –> 00:30:55.390
a seated, it’s a really small venue. I don’t

00:30:55.390 –> 00:30:58.589
think you can fit more than like 250, 300 people

00:30:58.589 –> 00:31:01.630
in that. That’s crazy. That’s kind of weird.

00:31:01.730 –> 00:31:07.089
But maybe those are all going to be $400 tickets,

00:31:07.190 –> 00:31:13.279
like you’re saying, Dan. So who knows? Brad,

00:31:13.299 –> 00:31:15.880
shows, we know you’re going to see Saxon. What

00:31:15.880 –> 00:31:19.160
else you have lined up and what other shows would

00:31:19.160 –> 00:31:22.200
you like to see? Which, by the way, Dan will

00:31:22.200 –> 00:31:24.380
like this. Lizzie Borden is the first act on

00:31:24.380 –> 00:31:28.180
that Saxon show. Good for them, yeah. Yeah, I’m

00:31:28.180 –> 00:31:30.759
excited to see them. I think they have a new

00:31:30.759 –> 00:31:34.150
album coming out. I should say he has a new album

00:31:34.150 –> 00:31:37.789
coming out. But, yeah, I know he hasn’t played

00:31:37.789 –> 00:31:40.329
them out in a while. So it’ll be interesting

00:31:40.329 –> 00:31:44.170
to see what his set list is like. And he probably

00:31:44.170 –> 00:31:46.089
won’t play real long. And then Riot is the middle

00:31:46.089 –> 00:31:50.150
band, Riot V. Good. So I think that’s going to

00:31:50.150 –> 00:31:52.609
be pretty good. And I found out Riot is playing

00:31:52.609 –> 00:31:56.369
The Day I Arrive in Austin. So I think I might

00:31:56.369 –> 00:31:58.269
try to hit that one as well. I don’t know who

00:31:58.269 –> 00:32:01.710
would be on that bill. So, yeah, I’m going to

00:32:01.710 –> 00:32:04.990
have fun there. Good times in Texas. Blind in

00:32:04.990 –> 00:32:07.829
Texas. Blind in Texas. There you go. And so the

00:32:07.829 –> 00:32:09.890
next possible thing, I don’t have tickets for

00:32:09.890 –> 00:32:13.190
this yet because I don’t like buying tickets

00:32:13.190 –> 00:32:15.069
way ahead of time unless it’s a reserve seat

00:32:15.069 –> 00:32:18.289
thing. And I’m like Dan. I like to get down in

00:32:18.289 –> 00:32:22.710
the front. I like to, you know, knock about with

00:32:22.710 –> 00:32:26.730
the boys. But the next one is Gene Simmons in

00:32:26.730 –> 00:32:31.970
Utah next month. And he’s like the 10th. So that’s

00:32:31.970 –> 00:32:35.369
not very far away. And so I’d really like to

00:32:35.369 –> 00:32:38.390
go see, go see him and his band. The venue sucks

00:32:38.390 –> 00:32:41.950
though. And it’s, it’s pretty big. But it’s,

00:32:41.950 –> 00:32:44.490
it’s just a crappy venue. The sound in there

00:32:44.490 –> 00:32:47.269
is bad. It’s because it’s tall, but I’m still

00:32:47.269 –> 00:32:50.789
going to try to go. So hopefully. You could be

00:32:50.789 –> 00:32:53.829
his roadie if you want to. Dr. Poison, Dr. Love.

00:32:54.730 –> 00:32:57.109
Yeah. The difference there is he’d have to pay

00:32:57.109 –> 00:33:03.869
me. That made a lot of news. Like, that’s a shocker

00:33:03.869 –> 00:33:08.170
because, well, because we know that bands do

00:33:08.170 –> 00:33:12.109
this, but they’re not at that level. So for a

00:33:12.109 –> 00:33:14.230
band, a lower level to say you can roadie is

00:33:14.230 –> 00:33:20.990
kind of a fandom thing, you know, or it’s stupidly

00:33:20.990 –> 00:33:23.890
priced and you shouldn’t do it. What do you think

00:33:23.890 –> 00:33:28.930
about? Okay. No, but here’s the thing to that,

00:33:29.009 –> 00:33:31.490
though. There’s so many people going apeshit

00:33:31.490 –> 00:33:33.509
about that. There’s people going apeshit about

00:33:33.509 –> 00:33:41.390
the whole $25 ,000 strutter single. There’s going

00:33:41.390 –> 00:33:43.829
to be somebody out there that’s going to buy

00:33:43.829 –> 00:33:47.029
it. The reason that they released this stuff

00:33:47.029 –> 00:33:50.470
is that there’s going to be somebody who’s got

00:33:50.470 –> 00:33:55.130
millions of dollars. Who’s a fan that has no

00:33:55.130 –> 00:33:58.549
issue paying for it? And that’s what a lot of

00:33:58.549 –> 00:34:03.410
people don’t understand. The other day, I had

00:34:03.410 –> 00:34:07.210
this random post come up on Facebook. And somebody

00:34:07.210 –> 00:34:12.190
said, Def Leppard was so much bigger than Kiss

00:34:12.190 –> 00:34:17.909
in the 80s. Why is Kiss’s I Was Made For Loving

00:34:17.909 –> 00:34:23.159
You over a billion streams? Def Leppard’s song

00:34:23.159 –> 00:34:25.760
that’s been streamed the most, Pour Some Sugar

00:34:25.760 –> 00:34:30.639
On Me, only has like a million something or other.

00:34:30.800 –> 00:34:35.760
And somebody says, oh, well, that’s because,

00:34:35.760 –> 00:34:39.059
you know, the rights for 10 years, Def Leppard,

00:34:39.119 –> 00:34:44.739
much like Tool and Led Zeppelin and Taylor Swift

00:34:44.739 –> 00:34:50.039
decided not to. sign for digital rights and this

00:34:50.039 –> 00:34:52.199
and that and blah, blah, blah. And they were

00:34:52.199 –> 00:34:55.059
going on this whole thing. And I responded and

00:34:55.059 –> 00:34:58.199
nobody responded back. And I said, okay, so for

00:34:58.199 –> 00:35:01.360
all of you people that have been criticizing

00:35:01.360 –> 00:35:06.619
KISS for being part of Scooby -Doo, for being

00:35:06.619 –> 00:35:09.480
part of Hello Kitty. I want to be in Scooby -Doo.

00:35:09.639 –> 00:35:12.800
For being in all these different things. They’re

00:35:12.800 –> 00:35:18.500
marketing their music to younger people. So what

00:35:18.500 –> 00:35:23.599
that means is that you’ve got kids with phones

00:35:23.599 –> 00:35:27.579
streaming stuff that they’ve watched in a Scooby

00:35:27.579 –> 00:35:31.760
-Doo cartoon and that stays in their playlist

00:35:31.760 –> 00:35:35.320
and they keep playing it. And I said, you people

00:35:35.320 –> 00:35:40.400
still think that the Kiss avatars. are for you.

00:35:40.579 –> 00:35:43.420
They’re not for 50 and 60 -year -old people.

00:35:43.639 –> 00:35:47.039
They’re for kids that are 8, 9, 10 years old.

00:35:47.099 –> 00:35:50.820
It’s to compete with Marvel stuff, keep the music

00:35:50.820 –> 00:35:54.079
alive, and when you realize that Def Leppard

00:35:54.079 –> 00:35:58.320
caps off at a million streams for Pour Some Sugar

00:35:58.320 –> 00:36:02.159
On Me while I Was Made For Loving You, a song

00:36:02.159 –> 00:36:05.559
that I really don’t like anyway, is at two billion

00:36:05.559 –> 00:36:09.340
streams. It’s because they weren’t marketing

00:36:09.340 –> 00:36:12.280
for the old guy that wasn’t going to watch the

00:36:12.280 –> 00:36:15.360
cartoon. That’s the guy that’s going to buy that

00:36:15.360 –> 00:36:21.920
stupid $25 ,000 gold single. People still don’t.

00:36:22.000 –> 00:36:26.340
I mean, it’s just so idiotic to see people online

00:36:26.340 –> 00:36:28.880
bitching about, oh, well, you know, you’re not

00:36:28.880 –> 00:36:31.659
marketing for me. You’re right. And look at Def

00:36:31.659 –> 00:36:35.510
Leppard’s market. Are people that are listening

00:36:35.510 –> 00:36:39.170
to Def Leppard, that are stuck on hysteria and

00:36:39.170 –> 00:36:42.769
pyromania, are they listening to that? And I’m

00:36:42.769 –> 00:36:46.570
talking about 80 % of their audience. Are they

00:36:46.570 –> 00:36:49.250
listening to that on Spotify or are they still

00:36:49.250 –> 00:36:54.489
using their CD to listen to that? Most people

00:36:54.489 –> 00:36:57.510
and what they don’t realize is that a lot of

00:36:57.510 –> 00:37:02.329
people our age and even people younger than us.

00:37:02.730 –> 00:37:05.769
haven’t jumped on streaming because they’re faithful

00:37:05.769 –> 00:37:09.690
to that cd you can’t get them past an album that’s

00:37:09.690 –> 00:37:13.250
come out in 1989 much the less ask them to get

00:37:13.250 –> 00:37:17.670
on streaming yeah if you haven’t got it out of

00:37:17.670 –> 00:37:19.309
your system to do the meet and greets and do

00:37:19.309 –> 00:37:20.909
whatever there’s still people out there that’ll

00:37:20.909 –> 00:37:23.989
do the the gene simmons thing absolutely because

00:37:23.989 –> 00:37:26.349
it’s it’s an opportunity and you’re like screw

00:37:26.349 –> 00:37:28.469
it i got the money i’m gonna burn it i’m gonna

00:37:28.469 –> 00:37:31.650
do it yes and that’s and that’s the whole thing

00:37:32.139 –> 00:37:34.780
Oh, you know, what kind of a dummy? Yeah, okay.

00:37:34.860 –> 00:37:38.199
So if you have the money to burn and you have

00:37:38.199 –> 00:37:42.300
the choice to meet someone in that circumstance

00:37:42.300 –> 00:37:46.760
and you idolize them or like their music, you

00:37:46.760 –> 00:37:50.920
just won the lottery. Hey, Gene Simmons is coming

00:37:50.920 –> 00:37:54.679
to town. I want to be his roadie. That’s not

00:37:54.679 –> 00:37:59.820
that far -fetched. No, not at all. No. So for…

00:38:00.809 –> 00:38:05.289
A slob like myself that doesn’t have that kind

00:38:05.289 –> 00:38:07.570
of money? Sure, for me, I’m like, there’s no

00:38:07.570 –> 00:38:10.650
way. I’m not going to do it. But if I’m not going

00:38:10.650 –> 00:38:15.150
to begrudge anyone who can economically pull

00:38:15.150 –> 00:38:19.170
it off. And really has it in them that they want

00:38:19.170 –> 00:38:23.699
to do it, absolutely. That’s it. And by the way,

00:38:23.900 –> 00:38:26.599
Def Leppard’s playing a casino. Now, they’ve

00:38:26.599 –> 00:38:28.440
been doing this these last couple years in the

00:38:28.440 –> 00:38:32.559
U .S., these stadium tours with Journeys or whatever.

00:38:32.840 –> 00:38:35.659
Well, now they’re playing a casino here in California.

00:38:35.780 –> 00:38:38.079
I’m not sure it’s sold out yet, but have they

00:38:38.079 –> 00:38:41.559
already fallen down, starting to go back down?

00:38:42.119 –> 00:38:47.840
Because they can’t sell out for as much as they

00:38:47.840 –> 00:38:50.510
want to tell you they’re as big as ever. Same

00:38:50.510 –> 00:38:52.969
with Motley Crue. Motley Crue, who all of a sudden,

00:38:52.969 –> 00:38:57.070
Vince Neil has a mysterious ailment, a ticketitis.

00:38:58.570 –> 00:39:04.409
Sugar diabetes. You know, I don’t understand

00:39:04.409 –> 00:39:06.909
why these bands have to play with smoke and mirrors

00:39:06.909 –> 00:39:08.690
all the time. There are other bands. Oh, you

00:39:08.690 –> 00:39:11.050
know, we’ve canceled our European tour because

00:39:11.050 –> 00:39:14.909
it costs too much for us to tour. You were here

00:39:14.909 –> 00:39:19.110
two months ago. You’re playing the same set list.

00:39:19.389 –> 00:39:23.119
Yeah. Who is now going to come back and pay another

00:39:23.119 –> 00:39:28.760
$60 to $80, euros, whatever it is, to see the

00:39:28.760 –> 00:39:33.920
same set list? So now the new excuse is, oh,

00:39:33.920 –> 00:39:36.639
you know, ever since COVID, the gas prices have

00:39:36.639 –> 00:39:40.800
gone up, so we can’t afford to tour. No, people

00:39:40.800 –> 00:39:45.860
can’t afford to see you three times a year. It’s

00:39:45.860 –> 00:39:52.170
that simple. All right. Okay, so Brad, so you’re

00:39:52.170 –> 00:39:56.150
going to see Gene Simmons? I really hope so,

00:39:56.230 –> 00:40:01.550
yes. And then I got M3 the first week into May.

00:40:01.710 –> 00:40:07.010
Well done keeping us on track there, Dan. And

00:40:07.010 –> 00:40:09.889
here’s the thing about M3, you know, the big.

00:40:11.379 –> 00:40:13.840
Mark Striegel, I love him, but he was really

00:40:13.840 –> 00:40:16.400
hyping this out before it was announced. Oh,

00:40:16.420 –> 00:40:18.179
you guys are going to be so surprised. And I

00:40:18.179 –> 00:40:22.000
was like, oh, I’m really excited now. And I’m

00:40:22.000 –> 00:40:25.139
telling you, David Lee Roth, I don’t know that

00:40:25.139 –> 00:40:26.920
that’s really that exciting. I’m going to find

00:40:26.920 –> 00:40:30.980
out. I hope I’m really wrong, and he puts on

00:40:30.980 –> 00:40:33.960
a great show, and he sings well, and I’m sure

00:40:33.960 –> 00:40:37.000
his band will be good. But I kind of feel like

00:40:37.000 –> 00:40:39.059
it’ll be almost like when I saw Yngwie the last

00:40:39.059 –> 00:40:42.579
time there. It was like just a laugh fest. It

00:40:42.579 –> 00:40:46.780
was just a spinal tap. Brad? We’ll see. Brad?

00:40:47.179 –> 00:40:57.940
Yeah. Yeah, I hope he does that. Just remember,

00:40:58.239 –> 00:41:01.320
he may not even bring a band. He may bring his

00:41:01.320 –> 00:41:06.059
collie out. He’ll be wearing his soft tap shoes.

00:41:06.179 –> 00:41:09.820
He’ll be sliding across the stage with the sword,

00:41:10.000 –> 00:41:13.099
with the flag at the end. Hopefully not. He won’t

00:41:13.099 –> 00:41:21.880
nip his nose this time. But how? This is what

00:41:21.880 –> 00:41:23.800
I don’t understand. All right. So Steven Pearce

00:41:23.800 –> 00:41:26.539
is taking and I’m sorry for hijacking this. Steven

00:41:26.539 –> 00:41:31.119
Pearce is taking Warren. Demartini, Carlos Cavazzo.

00:41:31.280 –> 00:41:35.280
I forget if it’s Jimmy DeAnder or I think it’s

00:41:35.280 –> 00:41:38.500
still the guy from Slaughter on drums. Okay.

00:41:41.679 –> 00:41:44.619
Who’s great? What’s his name? The original bass

00:41:44.619 –> 00:41:49.360
player. Matt Thor. Matt Thor. I used to idolize

00:41:49.360 –> 00:41:53.880
him. Go ahead. David Lee Roth. Not dead. Steve

00:41:53.880 –> 00:41:58.639
Vai. Billy Sheehan. And Greg Bissonette together.

00:41:59.420 –> 00:42:01.519
Those guys would do it in a heartbeat. Those

00:42:01.519 –> 00:42:04.139
guys would be there. They would be there. This

00:42:04.139 –> 00:42:07.119
is the perfect gig to do that at. Yes. How many

00:42:07.119 –> 00:42:12.039
tickets would they sell? All of them. I’d be

00:42:12.039 –> 00:42:16.929
able to resell mine. Even if Dave. People would

00:42:16.929 –> 00:42:20.170
show up just to see those guys play with him

00:42:20.170 –> 00:42:23.510
again. That was that was fucking amazing as they

00:42:23.510 –> 00:42:26.690
were minutes away from doing it at that bowling

00:42:26.690 –> 00:42:29.289
event thing. And they got shut down by the fire

00:42:29.289 –> 00:42:32.869
marshal of just that’s a great story. And you’re

00:42:32.869 –> 00:42:36.389
absolutely right. That’s what they should do.

00:42:36.510 –> 00:42:39.929
I wish they do it. Those guys would do it in

00:42:39.929 –> 00:42:41.769
a heartbeat, too. I know they all want to do

00:42:41.769 –> 00:42:46.559
it. But you’re right. Then it would be like,

00:42:46.619 –> 00:42:50.599
holy crap, M3 just put themselves way the hell

00:42:50.599 –> 00:42:54.199
up there. There you go. Instead of like, oh my

00:42:54.199 –> 00:42:57.219
goodness, Stephen Piercy and Warren Demartini

00:42:57.219 –> 00:43:01.199
are playing together again? That’s going to sell

00:43:01.199 –> 00:43:03.300
huge tickets. It probably will. People will go

00:43:03.300 –> 00:43:09.320
nuts. I mean, that’s going to… I think it’ll

00:43:09.320 –> 00:43:11.719
pull people in and they’ve announced more shows

00:43:11.719 –> 00:43:15.000
since. Yeah, I think they had to hold off on

00:43:15.000 –> 00:43:17.079
that because they wanted to – it was probably

00:43:17.079 –> 00:43:18.800
part of the deal with M3. It’s like we’ve got

00:43:18.800 –> 00:43:20.239
to make this look like this is the only one you’re

00:43:20.239 –> 00:43:22.320
doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now they’ve started

00:43:22.320 –> 00:43:26.059
announcing other stuff. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Because

00:43:26.059 –> 00:43:28.559
I think – because Steven has been saying that

00:43:28.559 –> 00:43:32.920
he wants to retire. So is this the end now then?

00:43:34.000 –> 00:43:38.780
Well, if he wants to retire, I think he should.

00:43:40.679 –> 00:43:43.559
Well, this may be the closest we see Rat getting

00:43:43.559 –> 00:43:46.800
back together again, unfortunately. So, Brad,

00:43:47.119 –> 00:43:49.400
you’re good to go. So you’re going to probably

00:43:49.400 –> 00:43:52.280
the M3 and you get to report back on that. Yeah,

00:43:52.320 –> 00:43:56.199
I hope so. And you sneak down front and you don’t

00:43:56.199 –> 00:43:57.860
even have tickets for the front and you sneak

00:43:57.860 –> 00:44:00.079
down in front because you told us all that you

00:44:00.079 –> 00:44:03.599
got the way. Don’t tell me. You know what, though?

00:44:03.860 –> 00:44:06.579
Because I found out some other things about this.

00:44:06.639 –> 00:44:08.480
They’re actually selling those seats now. So

00:44:08.480 –> 00:44:11.230
I don’t know that I’ll be able to. pull the maneuvers

00:44:11.230 –> 00:44:14.849
like i did before yeah the things things are

00:44:14.849 –> 00:44:18.690
changing with that m3 group um let’s see what

00:44:18.690 –> 00:44:24.409
else i got going on here um tell us yeah yeah

00:44:24.409 –> 00:44:27.789
uh i know at the end of the summer uh we’re gonna

00:44:27.789 –> 00:44:30.030
go see toto and salt lake and that that’s like

00:44:30.030 –> 00:44:33.610
gonna be the most expensive concert ticket i’ve

00:44:33.610 –> 00:44:36.670
ever purchased because shelly wants to sit down

00:44:36.670 –> 00:44:41.719
you know Closest you can. It’s in a shed. And

00:44:41.719 –> 00:44:44.639
I can’t remember what it was, but it was like,

00:44:44.659 –> 00:44:49.000
oh, my gosh. Crazy. You’re spending more than

00:44:49.000 –> 00:44:52.880
Kansas for Toto? Yeah, I think I could actually

00:44:52.880 –> 00:44:54.820
have Kansas come play at my house for what I’m

00:44:54.820 –> 00:44:58.940
paying for Toto to go see Toto. And at this case,

00:44:59.000 –> 00:45:04.800
you know, Toto’s not in Kansas anymore. You know

00:45:04.800 –> 00:45:07.400
what? That would be like the actual great bill,

00:45:07.539 –> 00:45:10.300
wouldn’t it? Toto and Kansas together? Come on,

00:45:10.320 –> 00:45:15.400
guys. What have you thought of that? Let’s see.

00:45:15.619 –> 00:45:19.239
I’ve never seen Billy Idol, and he’s coming to

00:45:19.239 –> 00:45:22.019
Utah at the end of the summer as well. And so

00:45:22.019 –> 00:45:23.840
I’m going to kind of keep an eye on that. I’m

00:45:23.840 –> 00:45:25.519
not just going to jump out there and buy tickets

00:45:25.519 –> 00:45:27.880
yet. They’re expensive as well. It’s the same

00:45:27.880 –> 00:45:31.360
venue, same outdoor venues. Dan, you’ve seen

00:45:31.360 –> 00:45:34.440
Billy? Probably back in the old days. No, that’s

00:45:34.440 –> 00:45:38.719
not in my area of concern. Okay. I’m not, no.

00:45:39.199 –> 00:45:43.059
Fair enough. All right. So that’s kind of what

00:45:43.059 –> 00:45:48.119
I have on the docket for right now. Okay. Oh,

00:45:48.139 –> 00:45:51.639
I just remembered another one that has come up.

00:45:52.400 –> 00:45:56.679
Melvin. Oh, okay. And they’re playing with Red

00:45:56.679 –> 00:46:02.739
Cross. Oh, wow. With Red Cross? Yeah. Wow. I

00:46:02.739 –> 00:46:05.820
didn’t know they were still doing anything. Yeah,

00:46:05.940 –> 00:46:10.800
and Steve McDonald is playing with Melvins now.

00:46:10.940 –> 00:46:15.000
Okay. So he’ll be double -jopping that night.

00:46:15.360 –> 00:46:19.980
So you might be forced to listen to some Kiss

00:46:19.980 –> 00:46:24.659
music live, because both bands cover Kiss. That’s

00:46:24.659 –> 00:46:31.699
right. Let’s hope not. The question is, will

00:46:31.699 –> 00:46:35.360
you be able to identify any of those songs? It’ll

00:46:35.360 –> 00:46:39.579
be interesting to hear Anthony come back to us

00:46:39.579 –> 00:46:41.619
and say, yeah, Red Cross played this really cool

00:46:41.619 –> 00:46:46.460
song, Detroit Rock City. No, I’d recognize that

00:46:46.460 –> 00:46:53.900
one. Wow. All right, cool. So next topic here,

00:46:54.260 –> 00:46:58.260
a new documentary about Skid Row’s Slave to the

00:46:58.260 –> 00:47:03.760
Grind. Interesting that we’re getting this in

00:47:03.760 –> 00:47:11.059
2025. Is this necessary at this point? I mean,

00:47:11.079 –> 00:47:12.619
this is something that probably would have been

00:47:12.619 –> 00:47:17.739
cool back in the day. But now, I mean, the producer

00:47:17.739 –> 00:47:20.480
certainly doesn’t remember anything about this

00:47:20.480 –> 00:47:23.679
album because when he was on Decibel Geek and

00:47:23.679 –> 00:47:26.380
they wanted him to talk about it, he couldn’t

00:47:26.380 –> 00:47:31.230
remember anything about it. Dan, does a Slave

00:47:31.230 –> 00:47:35.550
to the Grind documentary tickle your fancy? None

00:47:35.550 –> 00:47:39.329
whatsoever. I did hear today that Maiden’s releasing

00:47:39.329 –> 00:47:49.050
a 50th anniversary. Back to you. Okay. Anthony,

00:47:49.469 –> 00:47:54.750
would you be in this one? I’m not going to say

00:47:54.750 –> 00:47:58.110
none whatsoever, but I’m still going to say no.

00:47:59.170 –> 00:48:04.050
I think it would make a good YouTube video essay.

00:48:04.269 –> 00:48:10.630
Yeah, okay. Which I would watch. But a full -on

00:48:10.630 –> 00:48:16.570
documentary? I don’t know. Yeah, Brad? Yeah,

00:48:16.829 –> 00:48:18.929
you know, Skid Row is one of those bands. I’ve

00:48:18.929 –> 00:48:21.230
seen them a few times now. The best time I’ve

00:48:21.230 –> 00:48:25.989
seen them was with Eric Greenwald when they were

00:48:25.989 –> 00:48:28.539
doing the… warming up for scorpions at the

00:48:28.539 –> 00:48:34.059
in vegas at the residency and i i liked the new

00:48:34.059 –> 00:48:36.380
songs they were playing and i’ve heard those

00:48:36.380 –> 00:48:39.320
old songs a lot and i think you’ve kind of talked

00:48:39.320 –> 00:48:42.039
about this victor where the being in new jersey

00:48:42.039 –> 00:48:44.360
they were kind of shoved down your throat yeah

00:48:44.360 –> 00:48:46.800
i kind of felt that way too even though i was

00:48:46.800 –> 00:48:51.300
in california and those songs just for some reason

00:48:51.300 –> 00:48:54.360
just don’t hit me hard They’re just like, they’re

00:48:54.360 –> 00:48:56.800
okay. I mean, that’s not bad. It’s just, it just

00:48:56.800 –> 00:48:59.079
doesn’t like move me. And I’ve seen Sebastian.

00:48:59.780 –> 00:49:02.860
I’ll be seeing him in M3. And I hope he doesn’t

00:49:02.860 –> 00:49:04.960
play mostly, I’m sure he will play mostly Skid

00:49:04.960 –> 00:49:07.219
Row songs, but I’d like his solo stuff actually

00:49:07.219 –> 00:49:10.679
better. And he’s actually pretty, he was pretty

00:49:10.679 –> 00:49:12.719
good last time I saw him in M3. I’ve seen videos

00:49:12.719 –> 00:49:16.119
of him on YouTube where he’s just awful singing,

00:49:16.199 –> 00:49:18.780
but he sang really well. Put on a good show.

00:49:18.860 –> 00:49:21.699
He was funny. He was endearing, and it was pretty

00:49:21.699 –> 00:49:24.340
good. But the Skid Row Boys, the band is really

00:49:24.340 –> 00:49:28.579
good, really tight, sound great. As far as what

00:49:28.579 –> 00:49:30.820
you’re talking about, before Dan pulls the plug

00:49:30.820 –> 00:49:35.420
on me here, yeah, I don’t care about the documentary.

00:49:37.340 –> 00:49:40.659
So here’s my question to you, Brad. Over or under,

00:49:40.760 –> 00:49:43.260
how many stupid things does Sebastian say on

00:49:43.260 –> 00:49:48.880
stage during M3? I’m going to put the over -under

00:49:48.880 –> 00:49:52.739
at five. Okay. Yeah, I’ll try to keep score.

00:49:52.780 –> 00:49:55.199
I’ll put Shelly in charge of keeping score. Okay.

00:49:55.599 –> 00:49:57.880
Because her version of stupid and mine, it might

00:49:57.880 –> 00:50:04.280
not be the same. I was really expecting just

00:50:04.280 –> 00:50:07.340
to think that he would be just awful and be a

00:50:07.340 –> 00:50:09.400
joke when I saw him there the last time. And

00:50:09.400 –> 00:50:11.519
I sat there and I was like, damn, you know, he

00:50:11.519 –> 00:50:15.179
had a good band. He was really cool. He wasn’t

00:50:15.179 –> 00:50:17.239
an asshole. He was just, he was, he was really

00:50:17.239 –> 00:50:20.639
cool. He loved the crowd. He was just very gratuitous

00:50:20.639 –> 00:50:23.059
to the whole thing. And, and he sang really well.

00:50:23.159 –> 00:50:26.420
I was like, all right, cool. I’m giving that,

00:50:26.440 –> 00:50:28.559
I’m giving Sebastian a big point there. Good

00:50:28.559 –> 00:50:31.880
job, Sebastian. Keep it up. He must’ve found

00:50:31.880 –> 00:50:33.739
the shoes that actually fit that day. And he

00:50:33.739 –> 00:50:38.280
wasn’t cranky. Yeah. Not cranky. I’m not a fan

00:50:38.280 –> 00:50:41.039
of Hailstorm and I’m not a fan of Skid Row so

00:50:41.039 –> 00:50:43.460
much with what they’ve been doing. But when I

00:50:43.460 –> 00:50:47.340
saw the clip of Lizzy Hale being with Skid Row,

00:50:47.539 –> 00:50:51.639
it worked really well. And I wouldn’t, I’d be

00:50:51.639 –> 00:50:54.880
okay seeing that. She pulled that off, I thought,

00:50:54.980 –> 00:50:58.960
on a video too, not even live in person. Yeah.

00:50:59.000 –> 00:51:01.460
I was surprised. They’re a really good band.

00:51:01.619 –> 00:51:05.820
I mean, they play really well. I mean, and it’s

00:51:05.820 –> 00:51:10.809
just. who will be singing, but yeah, but those

00:51:10.809 –> 00:51:12.610
old songs, those old songs really just don’t

00:51:12.610 –> 00:51:15.949
hit me. It’s I, I don’t get all. Ooh. Yeah. And

00:51:15.949 –> 00:51:18.690
especially the, you know, the, the 18 life and

00:51:18.690 –> 00:51:21.250
all that. It’s like, Oh God. Then they’re done

00:51:21.250 –> 00:51:24.769
it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, it’s, I mean, God

00:51:24.769 –> 00:51:27.730
bless them for having success and good on those

00:51:27.730 –> 00:51:30.550
guys. They seem like decent dudes. So I’m glad

00:51:30.550 –> 00:51:32.150
it’s just, it’s just for some reason, it just

00:51:32.150 –> 00:51:38.590
doesn’t hit me. 18th singer in life there. Ronnie

00:51:38.590 –> 00:51:41.489
Romero. I’m telling you that any day now they’re

00:51:41.489 –> 00:51:47.769
going to announce it. Yeah. Again, we could spend

00:51:47.769 –> 00:51:50.610
a whole show talking about Ronnie Romero. I just,

00:51:50.750 –> 00:51:55.050
and I’ll, I’ll, I’ll end up posting this. I got

00:51:55.050 –> 00:51:57.869
a video of him covering rainbow in the dark,

00:51:57.909 –> 00:52:04.969
something everyone’s been waiting for. That’s

00:52:04.969 –> 00:52:07.150
sarcasm, right? You just held up your sign? Good

00:52:07.150 –> 00:52:12.650
job, Dan. That is sarcasm. Wait, Dan. Hold on.

00:52:12.750 –> 00:52:16.769
Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Let’s get it. Yes.

00:52:17.110 –> 00:52:21.710
Okay. Well, I think he was either going for that

00:52:21.710 –> 00:52:28.980
or a yellow submarine, you know. All right. Enough

00:52:28.980 –> 00:52:32.039
of the covers already. You know, let’s… No,

00:52:32.139 –> 00:52:34.179
and if you’re going to cover something, you know,

00:52:34.179 –> 00:52:37.300
for as much crap as Metallica gets for covering

00:52:37.300 –> 00:52:40.860
bands, for the most part, they’re not covering

00:52:40.860 –> 00:52:45.300
the band’s biggest song. The song we’ve already

00:52:45.300 –> 00:52:51.360
heard 800 ,000 million times on the radio. You

00:52:51.360 –> 00:52:55.159
know, instead of covering Highway Star, Space

00:52:55.159 –> 00:53:01.679
Trucking, if you’re Ace Frehley, Oh, Ace is going

00:53:01.679 –> 00:53:05.900
to be at M3. And he’s releasing another covers

00:53:05.900 –> 00:53:08.440
album. We’ll see. We’ll see if he’s better than

00:53:08.440 –> 00:53:10.320
the last time he was there where he obviously

00:53:10.320 –> 00:53:12.619
had a lot of cough syrup. Yeah, it was cough

00:53:12.619 –> 00:53:15.420
syrup. He was, you know. It was a lot of cough

00:53:15.420 –> 00:53:17.599
syrup. That was like the most ridiculous thing

00:53:17.599 –> 00:53:20.099
I’ve ever seen at a live show where, I mean,

00:53:20.119 –> 00:53:22.559
and M3, they just turned, you know, I get spinning

00:53:22.559 –> 00:53:24.599
stage and they’re turning bands over like that.

00:53:25.420 –> 00:53:27.760
And, but no ACE, they got to come out and they

00:53:27.760 –> 00:53:29.599
did this huge sound check. And of course, no,

00:53:29.679 –> 00:53:31.639
no ACE out there, but all his boys, he’s got

00:53:31.639 –> 00:53:34.659
the big crew. And, and it was, it felt like it

00:53:34.659 –> 00:53:37.599
was an hour. And so they got everything right.

00:53:37.659 –> 00:53:39.280
And they hit the stage and nothing was right.

00:53:39.440 –> 00:53:41.719
I mean, everything was, the sound was just awful.

00:53:41.840 –> 00:53:44.059
It was a disaster. Everybody’s like pointing

00:53:44.059 –> 00:53:48.159
at the soundboard, you know, and it was, it was

00:53:48.159 –> 00:53:50.199
a fricking mess. I’m like, if you’re going to

00:53:50.199 –> 00:53:53.340
do it where, where 90 % of the other bands walked

00:53:53.340 –> 00:53:56.420
on stage without a sound check. And they dialed

00:53:56.420 –> 00:53:59.019
him right in, man, and they sounded great. They

00:53:59.019 –> 00:54:02.920
spent an hour just fucking up all the equipment.

00:54:06.559 –> 00:54:09.579
Here’s what I think it was. It’s like, we can’t

00:54:09.579 –> 00:54:11.940
go on until we wake Ace up. We got to wake him

00:54:11.940 –> 00:54:16.960
up first. So stall, guys, stall. True. Oh, my

00:54:16.960 –> 00:54:21.599
goodness. But here’s the thing with that. There

00:54:21.599 –> 00:54:25.630
are a bunch of guys that are. Known for being

00:54:25.630 –> 00:54:30.469
great musicians, great cover band, members of

00:54:30.469 –> 00:54:33.849
cover bands. If Ace can’t sing one night, have

00:54:33.849 –> 00:54:36.829
one of the other guys sing. Yeah. Ace is known

00:54:36.829 –> 00:54:40.070
for being a lead guitarist, not being Bruce Dickinson.

00:54:40.809 –> 00:54:43.309
But when I saw him before with the cops there,

00:54:43.349 –> 00:54:45.309
that was Richie Scarlett in the old band. He

00:54:45.309 –> 00:54:49.789
fired him. Okay. So that makes sense. Richie

00:54:49.789 –> 00:54:51.489
Scarlett, bless his heart, man. He should not

00:54:51.489 –> 00:55:00.599
sing. Richie who saw me walk into the Roseland

00:55:00.599 –> 00:55:02.599
in New York once, and he couldn’t take his eyes

00:55:02.599 –> 00:55:06.119
off me. And I’m thinking, what’s going on here?

00:55:06.539 –> 00:55:10.199
And then I went up to him at a KISS convention.

00:55:14.000 –> 00:55:16.019
And I’m like, yeah, I saw you at the Roseland.

00:55:16.219 –> 00:55:18.000
You know, you kept looking at me. I guess I must

00:55:18.000 –> 00:55:20.340
have reminded, I probably reminded you of somebody.

00:55:20.619 –> 00:55:29.719
I can’t remember. My ex -wife. Anyway, point

00:55:29.719 –> 00:55:35.559
number four. Savatage will focus mostly on Zach

00:55:35.559 –> 00:55:40.860
Stevens’ era of the band. Is this a smart move?

00:55:42.559 –> 00:55:46.780
Let’s remember, Zach Stevens is fronting the

00:55:46.780 –> 00:55:54.539
band. That’s one thing. But when he came into

00:55:54.539 –> 00:55:59.320
the band for Handful of Rain, how many Handful

00:55:59.320 –> 00:56:02.340
of Rain songs were they doing? Maybe four, five

00:56:02.340 –> 00:56:08.880
max live? Everything else was John Oliva stuff.

00:56:12.079 –> 00:56:14.380
The meat and potatoes of the band, that would,

00:56:14.559 –> 00:56:22.820
I don’t know. Again, this is Brian Johnson saying

00:56:22.820 –> 00:56:25.940
he won’t sing Bon Scott stuff or Dickinson saying

00:56:25.940 –> 00:56:31.280
he won’t sing DeAnno stuff. Yes, people know

00:56:31.280 –> 00:56:34.460
who you are. You were the second singer in the

00:56:34.460 –> 00:56:38.280
band. People are champing at the bit to see you,

00:56:38.360 –> 00:56:42.829
but they want to hear that. John Aliva stuff.

00:56:42.969 –> 00:56:45.769
They want to hear Hall of the Mountain King and

00:56:45.769 –> 00:56:49.710
they want to hear gutter ballet and all that

00:56:49.710 –> 00:56:52.510
classic stuff because that’s what got most people

00:56:52.510 –> 00:56:55.750
into the band. And as cool as Handful of Rain

00:56:55.750 –> 00:56:58.889
is and some of the other tracks with Zach on

00:56:58.889 –> 00:57:05.809
it, people are going to want to hear both. How

00:57:05.809 –> 00:57:09.980
about that? Yeah, I saw them back in the day

00:57:09.980 –> 00:57:12.219
when it was the Hall of the Mountain King era

00:57:12.219 –> 00:57:14.559
and all that before the tragedy happened, and

00:57:14.559 –> 00:57:18.980
the band died. It sucks, and it is what it is.

00:57:20.460 –> 00:57:25.739
There’s nothing left. It’s over. It’s just reality.

00:57:26.260 –> 00:57:28.960
The interesting thing, though, what you just

00:57:28.960 –> 00:57:32.059
said, the band died, but they were smart enough.

00:57:32.809 –> 00:57:36.630
to resurrect the band into a money -making machine,

00:57:36.710 –> 00:57:39.989
which is Trans -Siberian Orchestra. And that’s

00:57:39.989 –> 00:57:45.269
not my gig to go to. I want sabotage. No, I agree

00:57:45.269 –> 00:57:50.590
with you 100%, but how many bands have been able

00:57:50.590 –> 00:57:54.269
to kind of pull the phoenix out of the ashes

00:57:54.269 –> 00:57:58.150
and do something completely different like that?

00:57:58.230 –> 00:58:03.539
Absolutely. Took it into a higher level than

00:58:03.539 –> 00:58:06.500
Savatage could probably ever get with sirens

00:58:06.500 –> 00:58:09.199
and all that shit back in the day that was heavy

00:58:09.199 –> 00:58:13.300
and new and not commercially successful at all

00:58:13.300 –> 00:58:15.800
that would never get radio play. Absolutely.

00:58:16.239 –> 00:58:18.420
They took it to where they wanted to get to make

00:58:18.420 –> 00:58:21.500
a job, make a living. Nothing wrong with that.

00:58:22.440 –> 00:58:26.980
Yeah. I’m all for making money. There you go.

00:58:27.420 –> 00:58:30.000
You just want to become Gene Simmons’ roadie.

00:58:30.250 –> 00:58:32.949
You’re just admitting to it. Like I said, he’s

00:58:32.949 –> 00:58:38.409
got to pay me. I want to make money. I would

00:58:38.409 –> 00:58:41.369
love to hang out with Gene and talk bass, though.

00:58:41.409 –> 00:58:45.050
I really would. Especially since I’ve been playing

00:58:45.050 –> 00:58:49.309
the first three Kiss albums for the past few

00:58:49.309 –> 00:58:54.420
weeks on bass. I’m telling you, man, these people

00:58:54.420 –> 00:58:57.019
that not kiss, not get songwriters and all that

00:58:57.019 –> 00:58:59.559
stuff. Hell no. Those, those are really cool

00:58:59.559 –> 00:59:03.079
songs and naughty, not super easy. Some of them

00:59:03.079 –> 00:59:05.639
are, but, but, uh, I mean, there’s some really

00:59:05.639 –> 00:59:08.099
cool stuff in there. So, and the bass playing

00:59:08.099 –> 00:59:12.280
is fantastic. There you go. There you go. Anthony,

00:59:12.380 –> 00:59:16.159
your thoughts on the whole sabotage thing. Uh,

00:59:16.360 –> 00:59:19.480
I, I, I have nothing to add on this. I don’t

00:59:19.480 –> 00:59:24.659
know enough about them or their, the story. I

00:59:24.659 –> 00:59:28.039
don’t know anything about this. All right. So

00:59:28.039 –> 00:59:32.000
last topic of the night. Rush is going to be

00:59:32.000 –> 00:59:35.500
releasing Rush 50 box set celebrating their 50th

00:59:35.500 –> 00:59:42.079
anniversary. So for me, there’s two trains of

00:59:42.079 –> 00:59:48.539
thought with this. One, it’s kind of cool. But

00:59:48.539 –> 00:59:56.650
at the same time. People take Kiss to task, Ozzy

00:59:56.650 –> 00:59:59.550
to task, Judas Priest to task, you know, about,

00:59:59.590 –> 01:00:02.889
oh, you’ve done all these re -releases. I think

01:00:02.889 –> 01:00:06.010
Maiden and Rush have done more re -releases than

01:00:06.010 –> 01:00:12.289
any other band ever. And no one ever calls them

01:00:12.289 –> 01:00:16.090
out for it because, and look, God bless them

01:00:16.090 –> 01:00:21.489
if people are still buying the stuff, but. Russia’s

01:00:21.489 –> 01:00:24.909
done this how many times? They just recently

01:00:24.909 –> 01:00:28.150
remixed and remastered, what, four or five albums?

01:00:29.369 –> 01:00:34.510
Within the last few years? I mean, I don’t know.

01:00:34.630 –> 01:00:38.690
I don’t get why some bands get called to task

01:00:38.690 –> 01:00:40.969
for, oh, there’s another Greatest Hits album

01:00:40.969 –> 01:00:43.769
or another live album, and then yet, hey, let

01:00:43.769 –> 01:00:48.210
me give you, you know, another variation of Permanent

01:00:48.210 –> 01:00:54.320
Waves. Because on this iteration of the album,

01:00:54.559 –> 01:01:00.559
Peter Collins turned the knob up two -tenths

01:01:00.559 –> 01:01:06.539
of a degree more than the last release of the

01:01:06.539 –> 01:01:10.380
album. So it’s been remastered for 2025. This

01:01:10.380 –> 01:01:16.079
is superior to the 2023 version. Sounds like

01:01:16.079 –> 01:01:20.480
it’s not needed. Yeah, I mean, it’s, you know,

01:01:20.519 –> 01:01:22.679
knowing Rush, though, that’s one thing is they

01:01:22.679 –> 01:01:24.760
usually don’t put crap out there. They usually

01:01:24.760 –> 01:01:29.159
give you something of quality. And let’s face

01:01:29.159 –> 01:01:34.260
it, Rush fans, a lot of them have jobs and have

01:01:34.260 –> 01:01:38.940
made money. And they’ll be more than happy to

01:01:38.940 –> 01:01:42.260
buy this stuff over and over again. And bless

01:01:42.260 –> 01:01:45.179
their hearts, man. Go for it. I don’t have a

01:01:45.179 –> 01:01:47.639
problem with them doing this. And as far as people

01:01:47.639 –> 01:01:49.940
taking them to task, yeah, you know, there’s

01:01:49.940 –> 01:01:53.900
the trolls out there. They’ve got their targets,

01:01:54.059 –> 01:02:00.420
and they’re just, you know, yeah. There you go.

01:02:00.699 –> 01:02:05.980
All right. Anthony, your thoughts? Oh, well,

01:02:06.260 –> 01:02:10.159
again, I kind of have no thoughts on this. Like,

01:02:10.199 –> 01:02:14.079
reissues happen all the time, and they come,

01:02:14.219 –> 01:02:17.519
they just. go buy me I don’t pay any attention

01:02:17.519 –> 01:02:22.900
to what like even bands I really like really

01:02:22.900 –> 01:02:26.199
shoot stuff and I just haven’t bothered buying

01:02:26.199 –> 01:02:29.280
it because like you know I have I have the album

01:02:29.280 –> 01:02:33.900
why do I want to buy it again yeah yeah I’ve

01:02:33.900 –> 01:02:36.380
embraced the digital subscription thing and I

01:02:36.380 –> 01:02:39.239
download what I need so I can listen offline

01:02:39.239 –> 01:02:43.170
and take it where I want to go And so if they

01:02:43.170 –> 01:02:45.610
want to put stuff out there, I just go and download

01:02:45.610 –> 01:02:48.670
it. So I’m not going to purchase it anymore.

01:02:49.070 –> 01:02:51.110
It’s only going to be, and we’ve had this discussion

01:02:51.110 –> 01:02:53.949
before, it’s only going to be Anthrax, Armored

01:02:53.949 –> 01:02:59.210
Saint, Metallica, Maiden, Roxanne. Bands that

01:02:59.210 –> 01:03:01.449
either need my money to keep it going, and I

01:03:01.449 –> 01:03:04.869
feel like I keep giving them money, like Armored

01:03:04.869 –> 01:03:06.550
Saint with the meet and greets and whatever.

01:03:06.829 –> 01:03:09.510
And I told Joey, I’m here because I want you

01:03:09.510 –> 01:03:12.099
to keep going, man. He said, I appreciate it.

01:03:12.119 –> 01:03:14.659
Yeah. So if they want to put it out there, I’ll

01:03:14.659 –> 01:03:17.079
just, I’ll just, you know, download it for free

01:03:17.079 –> 01:03:23.840
for free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I’m with you, Dan.

01:03:23.880 –> 01:03:26.179
So yeah, that’s, I buy this stuff. Cause I mean,

01:03:26.179 –> 01:03:29.980
yeah, your local bands and stuff like that. You

01:03:29.980 –> 01:03:32.980
got to support Dan. I mean, plus he’s, he’s always

01:03:32.980 –> 01:03:35.280
helped Victor. You know, he’s always been good

01:03:35.280 –> 01:03:37.280
to Victor. So I’ll help anybody who’s good to

01:03:37.280 –> 01:03:39.199
Victor. I’m going to, I’m going to buy your stuff.

01:03:39.840 –> 01:03:42.739
And these dudes, they need some love. But, you

01:03:42.739 –> 01:03:45.980
know, if you want to sell albums, though, I think

01:03:45.980 –> 01:03:47.980
you got to go back to the old days of the B -sides

01:03:47.980 –> 01:03:51.320
of Anthrax putting out that I’m the Man stuff

01:03:51.320 –> 01:03:56.280
and Metallica. And if you want to sell, you make

01:03:56.280 –> 01:03:57.559
it exclusive to the record. You don’t put it

01:03:57.559 –> 01:04:01.980
on the subscription. And I, as a fan, love that

01:04:01.980 –> 01:04:08.110
shit. And went to hunt it down, you know. That’s

01:04:08.110 –> 01:04:10.630
why I think the record store day stuff, when

01:04:10.630 –> 01:04:14.469
they first started doing it, made sense because

01:04:14.469 –> 01:04:16.650
they were doing that. They were releasing stuff

01:04:16.650 –> 01:04:20.210
exclusively on vinyl. You had to hunt the store

01:04:20.210 –> 01:04:25.429
down where it was available. And if you really

01:04:25.429 –> 01:04:30.489
wanted it, you picked it up. Now, of course,

01:04:30.510 –> 01:04:33.190
the record store where I’m ordering most of my

01:04:33.190 –> 01:04:35.949
stuff, they were smart enough to send me the

01:04:35.949 –> 01:04:40.000
record store. They list two months ago and said,

01:04:40.019 –> 01:04:43.539
hey, this is coming out in April. Anything that’s

01:04:43.539 –> 01:04:46.340
in your interest so that we make sure we ordered

01:04:46.340 –> 01:04:50.860
ahead of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There’s some

01:04:50.860 –> 01:04:57.179
stuff I’ll pick up. But yeah. I’m also kind of

01:04:57.179 –> 01:05:01.840
at the age now where I don’t want any more stuff.

01:05:04.530 –> 01:05:07.750
I’ve got all the records I bought in my whole

01:05:07.750 –> 01:05:11.730
life still. And I’ve carried them from here to

01:05:11.730 –> 01:05:16.750
there. I’ve got probably a thousand CDs down

01:05:16.750 –> 01:05:22.530
there. You know, even down to the real, like,

01:05:22.550 –> 01:05:25.989
I haven’t necessarily bought their latest stuff

01:05:25.989 –> 01:05:31.380
because I just still want more things. Maybe

01:05:31.380 –> 01:05:35.219
it’s the age for us. As we talked about at the

01:05:35.219 –> 01:05:37.699
beginning of the hour, it’s normal. You’re with

01:05:37.699 –> 01:05:45.420
all of us the same. I’m saying this when I look

01:05:45.420 –> 01:05:48.139
at Victor there surrounded by things and I hope

01:05:48.139 –> 01:05:54.159
you don’t think I’m crazy. No, no, no. I have

01:05:54.159 –> 01:05:56.000
the CD and I go, where am I going to put this

01:05:56.000 –> 01:05:59.389
one now? Where do I file this? I got the other

01:05:59.389 –> 01:06:01.650
ones with the under the bed or the under the

01:06:01.650 –> 01:06:08.110
closet. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Having said that,

01:06:08.130 –> 01:06:11.889
I did buy a couple of records recently. We’re

01:06:11.889 –> 01:06:15.429
considering upgrading their record player, which

01:06:15.429 –> 01:06:21.050
will only lead to more. You got the fix. Yeah.

01:06:22.869 –> 01:06:27.170
Anthony, there’s a lot of people like that. you

01:06:27.170 –> 01:06:30.769
know, with, with streaming becoming a thing that

01:06:30.769 –> 01:06:33.289
I know there’s a lot of people that have jumped

01:06:33.289 –> 01:06:36.269
away from collecting things and owning it and

01:06:36.269 –> 01:06:38.110
saying, you know what, I’m already paying for

01:06:38.110 –> 01:06:40.630
this service. Why do I need to have this around

01:06:40.630 –> 01:06:43.230
this? You know, I can get rid of this and have

01:06:43.230 –> 01:06:48.469
more space for something else, you know? So I

01:06:48.469 –> 01:06:53.829
get it. Like, like I do find that I bought a

01:06:53.829 –> 01:06:57.480
lot of things on, uh, Like Bandcamp, for example.

01:06:58.380 –> 01:07:03.619
I buy somebody’s album on Bandcamp to support

01:07:03.619 –> 01:07:08.699
them. I totally never play it. I will then stream

01:07:08.699 –> 01:07:13.099
it. But I bought the album, the digital album.

01:07:13.320 –> 01:07:16.280
It’s kind of best of both worlds. Yep, yep. There’s

01:07:16.280 –> 01:07:19.440
an album right over here that’s from a local

01:07:19.440 –> 01:07:25.329
band. Had the guitarist and vocalist. come to

01:07:25.329 –> 01:07:29.190
my house and hand deliver it to me. And I paid

01:07:29.190 –> 01:07:32.050
him for it. And I said, Oh, have you listened

01:07:32.050 –> 01:07:34.590
to the vinyl? What’s the quality like? And I

01:07:34.590 –> 01:07:38.489
told him after the fact, I’m like, well, my turntable

01:07:38.489 –> 01:07:40.949
kind of sucks, but the digital version on band

01:07:40.949 –> 01:07:46.829
cam sounded pretty good. So, so understand 100%.

01:07:46.829 –> 01:07:53.260
So. So, well, basically, that’s where I am with

01:07:53.260 –> 01:07:56.460
reissues. Yeah, yeah, no, that’s fine. I mean,

01:07:56.480 –> 01:08:00.960
for me, for example, I have the Fastway album,

01:08:01.059 –> 01:08:04.239
which was just reissued, and I had that sent

01:08:04.239 –> 01:08:07.599
to me from Ireland. There’s this one Irish store

01:08:07.599 –> 01:08:12.099
that every so often has certain reissues that

01:08:12.099 –> 01:08:14.980
other places don’t have. And since vinyl has

01:08:14.980 –> 01:08:19.579
just become so expensive, now it has to really

01:08:19.579 –> 01:08:22.659
jump out at me for me to, to pick it up. You

01:08:22.659 –> 01:08:24.340
know, a few years ago it was different. I was

01:08:24.340 –> 01:08:26.640
like, Oh, you know, I’ll just get all of these.

01:08:26.720 –> 01:08:32.340
But now, I mean, when you’re looking at like

01:08:32.340 –> 01:08:36.939
40 bucks per vinyl and, and I mentioned this

01:08:36.939 –> 01:08:41.079
already, I, I bought Injustice for All on vinyl

01:08:41.079 –> 01:08:49.680
at Walmart for $26. And it costs, 59 euros here.

01:08:50.479 –> 01:08:53.560
The somewhere in time reissue that they just

01:08:53.560 –> 01:09:00.119
had was between 60 to 70 euros here. Walmart

01:09:00.119 –> 01:09:05.800
was selling it this summer for 26, $29. I ordered

01:09:05.800 –> 01:09:07.779
it online and had it shipped to my folks house.

01:09:07.899 –> 01:09:11.520
You know, I’m not. I’m not going to spend that

01:09:11.520 –> 01:09:13.779
much money. And, and I know that there are people

01:09:13.779 –> 01:09:15.859
that are like, Oh, you know, how, how can you

01:09:15.859 –> 01:09:18.100
buy from Walmart? How can you support it? Well,

01:09:18.119 –> 01:09:22.399
my money, it’s my money and how I need to spend

01:09:22.399 –> 01:09:25.039
it. Yeah. I mean, ultimately I’m not going to

01:09:25.039 –> 01:09:29.359
spend, I’m a consumer. Yeah. $70 for somewhere

01:09:29.359 –> 01:09:32.000
in time reissue. I’m sorry. It’s a yellow vinyl

01:09:32.000 –> 01:09:38.199
and a poster. It should not be 70 euros. Yep.

01:09:39.020 –> 01:09:46.500
That’s true, man. My question now is how many

01:09:46.500 –> 01:09:48.779
people are going to start jumping on like Edgar

01:09:48.779 –> 01:09:51.380
Winterson around the next few minutes saying,

01:09:51.420 –> 01:09:56.479
wait, the show’s over. What’s going on? Check

01:09:56.479 –> 01:10:02.020
your messages, folks. But anyway, guys, I want

01:10:02.020 –> 01:10:06.899
to thank Metal Dan, Anthony Mackie, Brad Dahl.

01:10:08.569 –> 01:10:13.130
Any other business. What’s that, Anthony? We’re

01:10:13.130 –> 01:10:15.510
not doing any other business. No, that’s it.

01:10:15.789 –> 01:10:18.869
We’re done. No more business. What other business

01:10:18.869 –> 01:10:24.050
do you want? Well, I thought the biggest sort

01:10:24.050 –> 01:10:27.949
of rock metal story of the week was the big tool.

01:10:28.569 –> 01:10:32.250
I don’t know about this. Tell us about this.

01:10:32.970 –> 01:10:37.409
So let’s do that. You know they’re big. their

01:10:37.409 –> 01:10:42.409
festival they did in I can’t remember the two

01:10:42.409 –> 01:10:46.449
day festival yeah that’s right and then they

01:10:46.449 –> 01:10:49.989
ended up playing four songs the same each night

01:10:49.989 –> 01:10:57.949
which for a gig where you had to go both nights

01:10:57.949 –> 01:11:02.550
and for a band like Tool you know those aren’t

01:11:02.550 –> 01:11:07.119
short songs I’d say that’s very disappointing.

01:11:07.420 –> 01:11:13.180
Now, you know, whatever. I’m not that into them,

01:11:13.180 –> 01:11:15.699
but I could see how it would be very annoying.

01:11:17.840 –> 01:11:22.739
I’m not familiar. They played Fugo. There’s a

01:11:22.739 –> 01:11:25.739
class action lawsuit as a result because they’re

01:11:25.739 –> 01:11:28.520
known for switching up, not playing the same

01:11:28.520 –> 01:11:33.640
songs on consecutive nights. So to Anthony’s

01:11:33.640 –> 01:11:36.340
point, you flew down to the Dominican Republic

01:11:36.340 –> 01:11:39.180
to see a two -day festival because you had to

01:11:39.180 –> 01:11:43.859
get both days. And they repeated four songs both

01:11:43.859 –> 01:11:46.859
nights. They played the same songs both nights?

01:11:47.539 –> 01:11:50.220
Just four of them. But as Anthony’s saying, those

01:11:50.220 –> 01:11:52.939
four songs could actually be a 90 -minute set,

01:11:53.060 –> 01:11:59.180
you know. And they played the second night of

01:11:59.180 –> 01:12:02.390
the festival. They played four of them. In a

01:12:02.390 –> 01:12:08.569
row. Like, could you imagine? That’s… But here’s…

01:12:08.569 –> 01:12:13.449
The weirdest part about all of this, yes, I get

01:12:13.449 –> 01:12:20.989
that people are upset because of that. But have

01:12:20.989 –> 01:12:25.510
they not been paying attention to what 90 % of…

01:12:25.819 –> 01:12:27.880
all the bands out there have been doing for the

01:12:27.880 –> 01:12:31.460
last 60 years and just playing the same set list

01:12:31.460 –> 01:12:34.600
night after night. I get that tool has always

01:12:34.600 –> 01:12:38.100
been set up. Yeah, but this is different. This

01:12:38.100 –> 01:12:41.880
is totally different. It’s like Metallica doing

01:12:41.880 –> 01:12:46.359
their, uh, their two night weekends and imagine

01:12:46.359 –> 01:12:53.060
they come out late. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Metallica

01:12:53.060 –> 01:12:58.750
wouldn’t do that. Well, Then again, much to their

01:12:58.750 –> 01:13:01.069
credit, which a lot of people like to crap on

01:13:01.069 –> 01:13:06.029
them, they made a point to do that with the 72

01:13:06.029 –> 01:13:09.689
Seasons tour is that if you were getting tickets

01:13:09.689 –> 01:13:11.850
for both night, you were seeing two completely

01:13:11.850 –> 01:13:13.850
different set lists. They weren’t repeating any

01:13:13.850 –> 01:13:18.310
songs. That’s fantastic. Yeah. It’s incredible.

01:13:19.670 –> 01:13:22.770
Yeah. Get on them. Yeah. No, that sounds like

01:13:22.770 –> 01:13:30.390
bad form for Tool. And, uh, but, um, what were

01:13:30.390 –> 01:13:34.069
they thinking? Anthony, what did you think of

01:13:34.069 –> 01:13:41.069
the whole, uh, mastodon thing? Oh, I, again,

01:13:41.189 –> 01:13:44.210
I, I’m not, I don’t, I have one. Okay. I thought

01:13:44.210 –> 01:13:45.909
you were, I thought you were into them. My bad.

01:13:46.189 –> 01:13:51.310
Me too. No, no, I do. I have, I have time for

01:13:51.310 –> 01:13:55.880
them. I’m not a crazy fan. And I was very surprised.

01:13:56.300 –> 01:13:59.479
What happened with them? They split up? No, one

01:13:59.479 –> 01:14:02.819
of their members left. Yeah. They parted ways.

01:14:02.960 –> 01:14:06.720
They say it’s amicable. But it’s, I mean, if

01:14:06.720 –> 01:14:09.619
you look at it, it’s kind of a big deal. They

01:14:09.619 –> 01:14:13.420
kept the same lineup together for 25 years. Yeah.

01:14:13.520 –> 01:14:16.239
You know, you think about, you know, a lot of

01:14:16.239 –> 01:14:18.140
people say, well, Aerosmith is, but no, well,

01:14:18.199 –> 01:14:22.159
Aerosmith actually took a break. Two guys left.

01:14:22.500 –> 01:14:26.020
They haven’t had Joey Kramer for quite a long

01:14:26.020 –> 01:14:30.739
time now as well. There aren’t many bands that

01:14:30.739 –> 01:14:36.859
have had the same four guys for 25 years. Yeah,

01:14:36.939 –> 01:14:40.079
they seemed kind of inseparable. Yeah, but I

01:14:40.079 –> 01:14:45.479
think he was kind of the odd guy in the sense

01:14:45.479 –> 01:14:48.439
that the other three guys are like huge metalheads

01:14:48.439 –> 01:14:52.020
and he’s always been like, the resistant one

01:14:52.020 –> 01:14:55.159
that didn’t want to be like grouped in with metal

01:14:55.159 –> 01:15:00.180
bands and stuff like that. But you’re not exactly

01:15:00.180 –> 01:15:02.699
releasing opera music, you know, you’re, you’re

01:15:02.699 –> 01:15:06.979
opening for Metallica and iron maiden. And, you

01:15:06.979 –> 01:15:11.439
know, I, I, I don’t get the reluctance that you’re

01:15:11.439 –> 01:15:14.720
playing heavy music yet. You go out and say,

01:15:14.760 –> 01:15:17.460
well, I’m not a fan of heavy metal. Well, why

01:15:17.460 –> 01:15:20.579
are you playing a, detuned heavily distorted

01:15:20.579 –> 01:15:24.600
guitar and you’re doing guttural vocals that

01:15:24.600 –> 01:15:29.520
isn’t exactly like I mean I don’t know what I

01:15:29.520 –> 01:15:34.020
don’t know I mean his solo music is more in the

01:15:34.020 –> 01:15:38.520
vein of I mean it’s weird it’s a mix of like

01:15:38.520 –> 01:15:42.960
country and Hawaiian music and and stuff like

01:15:42.960 –> 01:15:46.399
that but I mean I don’t know okay I didn’t know

01:15:46.399 –> 01:15:51.729
that about them Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s one

01:15:51.729 –> 01:15:54.010
of the knocks that they have is that they started

01:15:54.010 –> 01:15:58.409
out like really heavy. And they’ve said on a

01:15:58.409 –> 01:16:01.449
few occasions, like Thin Lizzy is one of their

01:16:01.449 –> 01:16:04.430
biggest inspirations, ACDC, KISS, bands like

01:16:04.430 –> 01:16:06.989
that. And they’ve always said, you know, hey,

01:16:07.010 –> 01:16:10.909
as time goes by, we’re going to get closer to

01:16:10.909 –> 01:16:13.850
sounding to these bands more so than getting

01:16:13.850 –> 01:16:20.800
heavy again. I got to give them this. And to

01:16:20.800 –> 01:16:23.920
me, they have their own sound. I mean, when I

01:16:23.920 –> 01:16:28.100
hear them, you know it’s them. Yeah. And so I

01:16:28.100 –> 01:16:29.300
got to give them that because that’s hard to

01:16:29.300 –> 01:16:33.520
do and well and be successful. Yeah, and multiple

01:16:33.520 –> 01:16:36.800
singers within the band, they don’t, although

01:16:36.800 –> 01:16:40.000
they have guttural vocals, they also have like

01:16:40.000 –> 01:16:43.640
other. vocal styles as well so i mean they’ve

01:16:43.640 –> 01:16:46.020
mixed it up they’ve had progressive stuff they’ve

01:16:46.020 –> 01:16:49.539
had stuff that’s more i don’t want to say mainstream

01:16:49.539 –> 01:16:54.039
but more like hard rockish and to an extent more

01:16:54.039 –> 01:16:58.399
like almost 70s rock i guess um so you’re not

01:16:58.399 –> 01:17:00.960
gonna find yourself in the shower singing that

01:17:00.960 –> 01:17:06.800
um i’ve i’ve sung mastodon all over the place

01:17:11.179 –> 01:17:16.500
I’ve even sung them in concert. I’ve even sung

01:17:16.500 –> 01:17:21.079
them in concert. All right. So, yeah, Mr. Borat.

01:17:24.920 –> 01:17:29.119
All right. Any other topics you guys want to

01:17:29.119 –> 01:17:32.699
bring up before I rudely cut people off again?

01:17:35.420 –> 01:17:42.890
It slipped my mind. I’m sorry. I just want to

01:17:42.890 –> 01:17:46.810
say that the next time I do anything recording

01:17:46.810 –> 01:17:48.869
-wise or that, I want Dan involved as a producer

01:17:48.869 –> 01:17:51.710
because he knows how to get things done. He’ll

01:17:51.710 –> 01:17:55.750
keep us on point. There you go. Well, I just

01:17:55.750 –> 01:18:00.409
thought of something. What about this new Metallica

01:18:00.409 –> 01:18:06.680
Apple film that’s coming out? Yeah. It’s shot

01:18:06.680 –> 01:18:10.359
on the Vision Pro or, you know, for the Vision

01:18:10.359 –> 01:18:14.479
Pro. Yeah, so it’s going to be an AR movie, alternate

01:18:14.479 –> 01:18:19.920
reality movie. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, it’s only

01:18:19.920 –> 01:18:26.159
25 minutes long. It’s like a… I don’t know

01:18:26.159 –> 01:18:30.739
who’s using who in this case, whether it’s Apple

01:18:30.739 –> 01:18:36.119
using Metallica to sell Vision Pros or… No,

01:18:36.119 –> 01:18:41.380
it’s Apple. I read it was 100 % Apple. They approached

01:18:41.380 –> 01:18:48.619
Metallica to do it. And see, this is where, again,

01:18:48.920 –> 01:18:52.979
we talk about older fans with disposable income.

01:18:54.159 –> 01:18:59.819
I don’t know of too many Swifties that could

01:18:59.819 –> 01:19:04.380
get every copy of vinyl of… whatever reissue

01:19:04.380 –> 01:19:06.779
that she’s doing is a lot cheaper than getting

01:19:06.779 –> 01:19:11.319
somebody to fork over a $3 ,000 vision pro, you

01:19:11.319 –> 01:19:19.880
know? Um, yeah. So it’s. That said, I would love

01:19:19.880 –> 01:19:24.239
to see it. Yeah. And that’s, that’s the thing.

01:19:24.399 –> 01:19:27.880
I think you’ll, you’ll be able to see it. like

01:19:27.880 –> 01:19:30.800
on your, uh, like on your phone or an iPad and,

01:19:30.859 –> 01:19:35.199
and you’re theoretically able to see the alternate

01:19:35.199 –> 01:19:43.060
reality, um, almost like a hologram in 3d over,

01:19:43.079 –> 01:19:45.920
over the screen, over your phone or tablet screen,

01:19:46.140 –> 01:19:49.199
but it’s not the same as the vision pro obviously.

01:19:50.300 –> 01:19:55.119
Um, I mean, I think I, listen, I think that I

01:19:55.119 –> 01:19:58.119
think a lot of the, alternate reality glasses

01:19:58.119 –> 01:20:00.560
and and all that stuff that they’re working on

01:20:00.560 –> 01:20:04.199
sounds neat in theory it’s just that price tag

01:20:04.199 –> 01:20:06.640
is just way out there for me to say you know

01:20:06.640 –> 01:20:10.239
what i’m just gonna spend three grand just to

01:20:10.239 –> 01:20:12.880
see this cool concert you know as cool as it

01:20:12.880 –> 01:20:18.539
is again i have to win the lottery to do that

01:20:18.539 –> 01:20:23.430
you know it’s one of those things It’d be nice

01:20:23.430 –> 01:20:30.289
to be able to rent one for a night watching Metallica

01:20:30.289 –> 01:20:33.449
thing. That’s got to be a thing, doesn’t it?

01:20:33.510 –> 01:20:34.850
I mean, there’s got to be somebody who’s doing

01:20:34.850 –> 01:20:39.170
something like that. Yeah, it must be. The problem

01:20:39.170 –> 01:20:42.090
there, too, you look at the other glasses, though,

01:20:42.149 –> 01:20:46.670
like the Metaglasses or the… There’s others.

01:20:46.750 –> 01:20:48.449
I don’t remember all the names, but there’s a

01:20:48.449 –> 01:20:51.430
few others that are… been around for longer

01:20:51.430 –> 01:20:54.710
and more popular than the Apple one. I mean,

01:20:54.729 –> 01:20:58.550
there’s still 300, 400, 500, depending on the

01:20:58.550 –> 01:21:03.449
resolution and, uh, and the other just different

01:21:03.449 –> 01:21:06.430
accoutrements that it comes with. That’s still

01:21:06.430 –> 01:21:16.850
a lot, you know? So I don’t know. I, right. That’s

01:21:16.850 –> 01:21:26.310
the thing. So. We’ll have to figure it out. We’ll

01:21:26.310 –> 01:21:31.430
have to do a search. How many people will end

01:21:31.430 –> 01:21:35.689
up going to an Apple store just to check it out?

01:21:38.829 –> 01:21:42.550
That’s a good idea. Let’s do that. Let’s all

01:21:42.550 –> 01:21:50.010
go together. Cool. All right. This time for real,

01:21:50.090 –> 01:21:55.050
folks. No. No cutting anyone off. No, nothing.

01:21:55.149 –> 01:21:59.710
We’re done. We were, we’ve we’re spent. Um, thank

01:21:59.710 –> 01:22:03.350
you. Metal Dan. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, Anthony

01:22:03.350 –> 01:22:06.090
Mackie. Thank you to the five people that were

01:22:06.090 –> 01:22:09.869
watching this live. Uh, and thank you to, uh,

01:22:10.069 –> 01:22:14.510
everyone who checks this out afterwards. And,

01:22:14.590 –> 01:22:19.319
um, yeah, we’ll see you next time. Right here

01:22:19.319 –> 01:22:22.579
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